Tesla battery material supplier tops list of human rights abuses 2nd year in row
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Book recommendation: "The world for sale", it goes over the major players in that industry, including their history controversies (unsurprisingly, there are quite few) and what they actually do.
Seriously, are we supposed resist being reminded of anti-ESG activism when the topics of Musk or conflict mineral comes up? Report me to the thought police.
Glencore is 1/10th the size, so it's fair to suggest that action by Tesla would influence Glencore to clean up its act.
They and hundreds of other companies.
>Glencore is 1/10th the size
In marketcap (which is speculative). They are 3x the size in revenue (which reflects size of operation). Action by Tesla would not cause glencore to do anything. Do you know what glecore has already done and gotten away with? They don't give a shit that some car maker isn't buying from them.
So we agree then? This feels like a "but the guy in front of me was speeding too" proposition.
> Do you know what glecore has already done and gotten away with?
I do, I used to work for them. The point is not to influence Glencore, a quick look at their majority shareholders is all anyone should need to know where they are on the sustainability responsibility spectrum. The point is to illustrate that Tesla, which advocates that "the future is sustainable" is building that vision on the back of some very unsustainable partners and practices.
I'm going to leave off the fallacy of using revenue as a primary proxy for business scale. See: Air Lease. A better comparator would probably be employee counts (they are similar).
How does that happen? Who in their right mind thinks to themselves "Maybe I should work for an obvious criminal entity". Did they at least pay well?
>I'm going to leave off the fallacy of using revenue as a primary proxy for business scale. See: Air Lease. A better comparator would probably be employee counts (they are similar).
What? Do you not understand that these are different metrics which measure different things? You measured size by evaluation, how can you accuse me of a fallacy?
Everyone knows about Tesla; far fewer people recognize the name Glencore, after all. Which is precisely how Glencore wants it.
See also: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-04/glencore-...
I do agree that singling Tesla out is a bit unfair -- it would have been more helpful to mention all the other major household names that are apparently benefiting from child slave labor at scale:
Tesla was sued in December 2019 in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia along with Alphabet Inc., Apple Inc., Dell Technologies Inc. and Microsoft Corp. for "knowingly benefiting" from children mining at sites owned by Glencore and other mining companies, a claim Glencore has vehemently denied.
Same goes for a long list of other major companies in many sectors. Glencore isn't some minor supplier here, they operate an enormous resource network, which filters into many, many things.
It seems like this database of human rights abuses is already qualified to only cover clean energy.
How does that compare to the oil industry?
"Here at $LARGECO we work tirelessly to ensure our suppliers adhere to the strictest safety guidelines and respect the individuality of our workers. Any failure to commit to that policy should be blamed on our suppliers, not us. We work hard to prevent it, after all."
dusts chalk off my hands
There. That ought to do it.