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r/startrek has just launched its own Lemmy instance

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108 pointsZacnyLos32 comments

Dupe: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36341257

Link to Lemmy community: https://startrek.website/c/startrek

...aaaand it's down already

I love the idea of a fediverse but I am not sure how it can possibly scale up to large communities. As long as people have to spin up their own node to host one, it seems forever limited to small groups of not more than perhaps a few hundreds users.

Agree. Imo, alternatives like lemmy just poison the well when they can't handle a tiny fraction of the users of a single subreddit.

I'm sure Reddit didn't crash ever in the early days, and I'm sure it was handling this kind of traffic from the get-go /s

Modern day Reddit couldn't even handle the protests against it.

lemmy doesn't need to compete against 1999's Reddit, or whenever it was released. It needs to compete against modern Reddit, which has massive communities with hundreds of thousands of members.

It doesn't need to do that on with 100% uptime on the day it launches. Especially if Reddit itself is going down this week.

Like so many people you underestimate the capacity of modern computers. Stack Overflow is famously hosted on like 6 machines. I personally worked on a system that was running on two machines, one a hot backup, that served highly dynamic content to 400k monthly actives.

I think you underestimate software engineers. I can bring a 64 core 512 GiB machine to its knees with a trivial program. Imagine what I could do when I'm trying to be productive.

This is called Eroom's Law: "Software bloat increases until it consumes all gains from Moore's Law."

As with "big data," the threshold for what qualifies as "hyperscale" increases exponentially with time.

Hyperscale 10 years ago can be served from a few machines at Hetzner today... if you write efficient software. Big data of 10 years ago can be analyzed on a laptop today.

10 years from now you'll probably be able to host today's Twitter from a shelf in your basement if you could get enough bandwidth.

That being said all this is predicated on efficient software. Unfortunately I don’t get the impression the fediverse stuff is that efficient. Isn’t at least some of it Ruby, the slowest platform available? If it were Go, Rust, Java, etc it’d probably be handling the load a lot better. Even PHP is faster by far.

Lemmy is implemented in Rust I thought

EDIT: here's a good discussion: https://programming.dev/comment/133415

Part of Lemmy is Rust. And then for some reason the web-ui has both a frontend and a backend component as well, and the backend component of the web-ui is written in Javascript.

I wonder to which extent this negatively impacts the perf of Lemmy.

I feel like a simple cache could've saved the day here. The homepage could be canned so at least it loads.

Maybe that's not such a bad thing.

Loads fine for me now. Try again?

Dead for me?

This comment is also a dupe: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36341414

> startrek.website is a partnership between /r/StarTrek and /r/DaystromInstitute from Reddit, they’ve both locked their subs over there for good. Follow @startrek

"For good", interesting. I wonder how things will be in three months for reddit communities. I wonder what parallels can be drawn between this reddit situation, twitter/mastodon and whatsapp/signal.

It's open already. Did reddit take over?

Looks to be restricted. Probably it's set up so people can find the new site.

its read only

I think what's going to happen with Reddit is people won't drop it for Lemmy but people will use both in parallel and eventually the more engaged / interesting users will leave reddit, and it will be over.

The sub is set to restricted - nobody except for the mods (and other approved users if they've set them up) can post.

It would be curious if Paramount or CBS Studios were to request Reddit hand over the sub for it to moderate as it owns the trademark.

Should've bought startrek.social

Not sure if it's a good idea to use that domain (startrek.website). It might attract some lawyers if it gets too popular.

Does something resembling the "Old Reddit" look & feel exist among the Reddit clones ?

> The new home of r/StarTrek, r/DaystromInstitute and sigh ...r/Risa

Hey, hey, hey :).

The contrast on this website is rather bad. For example the pinned discussions are dark blue against a dark grey background. Prev (disabled button) and Next (normal button) use almost the same shade of grey. Hot|Top|New|Old all look like disabled buttons (very faint) but they are clickable.

There doesn't seem to be a way to switch to a light theme? Are there other online viewers for lemmy?

(Of course this could be the result of me being middle-aged or me using a mid-range monitor rather than high-end OLED, so take of that what you will)

Join a different instance with a different color scheme?

I get a cert error. Maybe the Let's Encrypt issue?

Super cool! A separate fan community like this is huge for longterm fan/community building. It also totally fits the ethos of star trek itself.

To boldly go where no Reddit community has gone before.

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