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> Loads of reddit users are annoyed by the blackout thing and find the arguments for it unconvincing. I mean personally I think all of the blackout people should just leave Reddit. Delete your accounts, delete your comments, resign as mods. Let the rest of reddit just move on.

You're not entitled to the communities or their content. The communities themselves are what make the sub. The same happens when users migrate from one sub to another or complain.

You don't control what they do and how they should behave. There was a social contract and it was thoroughly broken, so there's obvious instability now.

The "I couldn't care less, give me my memes" can take their own arbitrary advice and leave if they don't like something. See how useless that is?

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> The communities themselves are what make the sub. The same happens when users migrate from one sub to another or complain.

Yes, the sum of all users are the community, not the mods themselves. Therefore if the community is truly aligned in a consensus to not reopen a sub, it won't matter if the sub is forcibly reopened by a newly installed moderator because the community, the users, won't come back anyway. So there's really nothing to complain about; the community is now dead or moved off reddit and it doesn't matter what reddit does with the subreddit that formerly hosted that community.

Unless of course the community is not nearly so united as claimed. Then maybe most of the community will come back to the subreddit. I think this is probably this is what will happen in most cases. And this is why people are mad about reddit threatening to reopen subreddits; because they don't actually have a community consensus to stop using that subreddit. They rely on the subreddit being locked to force the community's hand, and as soon as that leverage is taken away the community will be free to make a decision which is contrary to their own desires.

> the community is now dead or moved off reddit and it doesn't matter what reddit does with the subreddit that formerly hosted that community.

It's an ongoing situation but I love how you're trying to force everyone's hand to get to "how things were" for you. Funnily enough. That's what the protest is about, in a way.

> And this is why people are mad about reddit threatening to reopen subreddits;

I love how the self proclaimed casuals like you who "don't care" have this specific takes about the motives and reasons for things.

The motives are what they are and have been clearly laid out. The one throwing a conspiratantrum is you.

Go create the sub you want. The community will follow you, right?

And yes, that has happened plenty of times that mods go against a community.

> It's an ongoing situation but I love how you're trying to force everyone's hand to get to "how things were" for you.

> Go create the sub you want. The community will follow you, right?

I stopped using reddit 10 years ago, it can burn for all I care. Stop trying to psychoanalyze people (badly.)

If admins lift the blackouts and people go back to using the subreddits, then obviously those people were not committed to not using reddit. This is simply common sense. The answer to this problem is for you to stop using reddit, then reddit's problems won't be your problems.

> Stop trying to psychoanalyze people (badly.)

Classic internet projection.

> If admins lift the blackouts and people go back to using the subreddits, then obviously those people were not committed to not using reddit

Backwards logic. They may be using it to complain or it may be intervened in a myriad of ways. You're set on dismissing while pretending you don't care but then make this claims that display ignorance of typical reddit behavioural patterns.

> The answer to this problem is for you to stop using reddit, then reddit's problems won't be your problems.

You keep going to this myopic well. Hey, if this bothers you shut up. Close your screen. Go to bed.

Basic b writing.

Please don't perpetuate flamewars on HN. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

The only people who act entitled to the communities and think they own them when they don't are the mods here. In what twisted way can you argue that a user of a community not wanting some power tripping mods to close down everything, acting entitled?

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