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I've built machines around these "deep" form factor boards in both Fractal Node 804 and Coolermaster NR200 cases. They fit fine, no surgery required.

As to the latter question, until/unless AMD updates TR Pro, this is the only HEDT option in the DDR5/PCI-e 5.0 era. Whether that matters to you and your needs is another question entirely.

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Yes but there is no mounting screw for the last screw on the 804 and you have to ditch the SSD tray on the NR200. You can’t say something is like a standard, it either is compliant or not, since everyone else designs based on assumptions from the specification

HEDT is also a make believe standard to run a pricing ladder against desktop processors for those who can’t afford workstation parts

What a strange hill to die on. Just don't buy the boards?

Well it’s a variant of bait and switch and the impression that they fitted the design into a standard small form factor is false. Anyone who buys this is in for a world of hurt

Having been that very person several times, I guess my anecdata is different from yours.

> You can’t say something is like a standard, it either is compliant or not,

Ok, deep mATX isn't mATX compliant. It's been said. But still, it is like mATX, but longer. I tend to prefer bigger cases, but mATX boards fit in them, and deep mATX would too.

> HEDT is also a make believe standard to run a pricing ladder against desktop processors for those who can’t afford workstation parts

There are no current gen AMD workstation parts either.

ASRockRack make a deep MicroATX Genoa and EATX/EEB boards too, which can take up to the 128 core Bergamo EPYC, or the high-frequency "F"-SKUs : https://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=G...

Yup. I personally find those to be a waste of PCI-e lanes in the smaller form factors, but my purposes are based around I/O more than thread count. To that end, I’m on a Milan frequency-optimized SKU in my current workstation, and an ATX board with access to all of the lanes the CPU offers.

That said, with PCI-e 5.0, a little board like this has a LOT of bandwidth.

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