A Huawei bid turned into a hunt for a corporate mole

Huawei also greatly benefited from Chinese espionage targeting Nortel, which was Canada's premiere tech company at the time.

This is what "wolf cult" i mean "culture" get you I guess :(

There is another story from ancient times tells the tale about two big telecom company in China stealing or damaging each other's production equipment/infrastructures installed on the streets... knowing that, the act of photographing your whiteboard with drone suddenly sounded well within the realm of possible things that could happen.

BRB going to turn my commercial drone license into a ChatGPT-enabled corporate-espionage-as-a-service.

That's some James Bond sh*t right there!

What kind of amateur doesn’t camouflage the clandestine drone lights. Those things are blindingly bright

Well we know that Huawei fully stole Nortel’s IP as well as Cisco’s software. So it’s not exactly a squeaky clean company.

The systemic theft of IP from the China government and corporations is not deniable.

There are countless examples not just from the US but EU, Australia, Canada etc.

It's even the same journalist as the previous sensationalist story: Jordan Robertson.

- https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-h...

- https://siliconangle.com/2018/10/22/apple-amazon-super-micro...

Something smells fishy.

TDC has stated to Danish media that they "recognize parts of the story" but have refused to elaborate. They haven't wished to refute any parts either.

https://nyheder.tv2.dk/business/2023-06-16-tdc-genkender-del...

See this: https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/counterintelligence/the-chin...

"At the same time, the Chinese government is seeking to become the world’s greatest superpower through predatory lending and business practices, systematic theft of intellectual property, and brazen cyber intrusions."

And just recently:

https://apnews.com/article/korea-samsung-china-copycat-semic...

"South Korean prosecutors have arrested and indicted a former executive of Samsung Electronics suspected of stealing trade secrets while attempting to establish a copycat computer chip plant in China."

There are literally hundreds of articles like this - and it's been going on for decades. But the behavior alleged in this article seems even more blatent and aggressive than the past, and perhaps a foreshadowing of what is to come in the near future.

I know speaking in abstract or on a high level is difficult, but I believe whenever we speak of the actions of the government of China and aligned businesses as ‘China’ we strengthen a narrative that they use of clash of civilisations, that legitimises them as ‘China’ and anyone in China opposed to them as ‘foreign backed subversives’

Only if we allow them to be.

If liberal western (and I mean liberal not "liberal") democracies stop our appeasement policies things will improve.

This sort of anti-Chinese hysteria is really getting out of hand.

China has been very reserved on the international scene in the last 40 years or so. It hasn't fought any foreign wars, and it's been mostly focused on its own internal economic development. That development has also brought enormous wealth to the United States and other developed countries, which have been able to access (previously cheap) Chinese labor and the rapidly growing Chinese market. Much of the modern American way of life over the last few decades would have been impossible without the economic development of China.

Since Trump came into office, there has been an incredible swing in American public opinion on China. China is now to blame for everything, an embodiment of pure evil, lurking around every corner. Maybe China is in the room with us right now.

It's sad to see this attitude spilling over into HN. The tech industry is incredibly international (and Chinese engineers make a major contribution to the US tech industry), and not only does the increasing animosity go against the open spirit of tech culture, but it will severely damage the industry in the long run as international barriers go up.

hmm.. every country capable of doing this does this. Does not make it right.. but singling out china is just drinking too much of kool aid.

Yeah, they are the ones with hundreds military bases all over the world, constantly invading/bombing other nations, staging coups, sponsoring terr^H^H^H freedom fighters...

While I don't want to defend the chinese government. I would like to point to the history of the US of extensive proxy wars, spying campaigns against supposed allies (and this was going on for years before the German spying became public, i.e. Echolon and how Boening seem to have manage to just undercut airbus bits for some time), pressuring allies to change (or even break their own) laws for US cooperate interest (e.g. the saga around Pirate Bay in Sweden). Or the cases of abductions into dark prisons for torture. What is most interesting around this is the outrage about the Chinese spying and the complete absence of consequences for the ones aiding the US efforts (the 2 guys in Denmark are being in court for leaking details of the investigation, while nobody is being prosecuted for actually leaking state secrets)