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... for replacement. Batteries have sensitive thermal requirements, so im sure there is a reason for the layout the wayy it is.

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The reason is most likely just that there was no consideration in the design process for designing for serviceability. It’s surprisingly easy to design for repair without sacrificing other attributes if you include that in your design goals from the start.

On what basis do you say easy to repair doesn't involve sacrificing other attributes? I've seen the Fairphone and it's a chunky one.

We sell a laptop that is the same thickness and weight as a MacBook Pro 13-inch, in which every part is trivially replaceable using one tool.

I was going with "oh yes? Show me what you sell" then I clicked on your username. You are doing an amazing job!

Does it also have the same build quality, performance, battery life and price?

Do you also sell tens of millions of them per year?

There's been enough HN threads where people bought framework laptops only to ditch them a few weeks after as they are nowhere near a macbook no matter how much you try to oversell it.

It’s unclear if you’re looking for a discussion in good faith, but, here are The Verge’s reviews of the most recent MacBook Pro 13-inch and Framework Laptop as reference points:

https://www.theverge.com/23177674/apple-macbook-pro-m2-2022-...

https://www.theverge.com/23725039/framework-laptop-13-2023-i...

Those links only serve my point. Macbook destroys framework in terms of battery life and dominates in performance benchmarks. Oddly, also in games. Though I wouldn't play Shadow of Tomb Raider on either of them. Also, it has better build quality than the framework laptop.

And is it as capable as well? Because I can also put some shitty decades old hardware and shitty battery into any thin case, that’s not a meaningful comparison.

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