How many people in the world really truly care if you admire or respect them? Maybe a dozen or so?
I mean literally dying for a stupid reason.
Funnily enough, I wondered the other day whether all the time I spent sitting in a chair having petty arguments with a computer (aka.programming) to have been a waste of my life as well.
Why should ANYONE remotely glorify this AT ALL? It's just stupid.
They might have different opinion. As long as they do not affect you directly judging people is not very good idea.
The article mentions he was battling with depression and actually described suicidal thoughts and ideations. This is very clearly contrasted to his thrill seeking tendencies and the fact he seemed to have goals even if it was to stave off depression.
Language is powerful and it’s meaning changes over time, but it is doing a disservice to mental health to simply label actions you find reckless as suicidal to signal your personal disapproval.
Has it ever crossed your mind that his mental state manifested itself in his actions that took a sport from moderately dangerous to “flipping the coin on your life”?
The most mike blowing part of this is that the part you’re most concerned with is policing the language used in the conversation, not actual outcomes in peoples’ lives.
I’m sorry if I’m not young, wild and free like you and him are, but I pity any friends or family who might be in a situation where they need a voice of reason to call them back from making a stupid, life-ending decision and all they have is you telling them “it’s okay as long as it’s within your risk tolerance!”
What are you talking about? They're obviously associated, you just SHOWED that. You've provided the best proof possible that "suicidal" is appropriate.
Fitting what a book says is not compelling; potentially saving lives is. Not calling someone "suicidal" when they are or merely might be strikes me as infinity worse than calling them suicidal when they're not.
Nothing of valor was achieved, and he performed no virtuous acts. It was a string of stupid, pointless acts which led to his death, and now we have people like you hero-worshipping him.
For my own part, I hope that nobody I love ever attempts something like this.
If it was an experimental pilot pushing the boundaries of flight or something, sure, there are inherent risks but you’re doing everything you can to mitigate the risk.
Climbing without a rope is just turning a past time into a needlessly dangerous pass time, with no benefit or glory.
THAT's it, exactly. If ANYONE at all values you as a person, doing dumb crap like this is hurtful to them.
I believe in personal autonomy, so yes, legally you should be able to do it. But it 99% is a shitty thing to do, to yourself and other people. It's dumb and should be discouraged.
A friends son-in-law is a Harley no-helmets guy. He died a couple days back on his bike, leaving two kids under 10. Kickstarter and FB is all freedom seeking bikers talking about what a tragedy it is. God’s Will and all that.
Perfectly normal behavior and view held by millions and millions.
This isn't congruent with suicide, however. But even if it were, that's permissible, as our lives are our own to use as we see fit. Anything less means you're not free to choose your own destiny.
It's unnecessary to you and me, but obviously not to these people. Our own opinions of necessary do not apply to them, only to our own lives.
I don't think we do the world too many favors with it; better to encourage people that their lives are more valuable than this.
(And please never take this to mean never-ever, e.g. euthanasia in cases of extreme physical problems seems fair too)
I suppose it would get dicier if I were thinking about law or policy to put into place here, but I have no problem simply using my words here.