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Reddit is telling protesting mods their communities ‘will not’ stay private

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Can we start funding Archive.org to start scraping reddit like it did for 30% of Geocities or whatever because Reddit this kills the Reddit. Everything that matters is scattered to the winds already like when they killed Oink or The Silk Road or MySpace or AOL or whatever. Seriously though. Reddit is a trove. We should be making a directed effort to archive it as completely as we can. It is kind of their property. I guess. Just as much as the four sites left on the internet are largely populated with screen shots from the other sites... but yeah. I do not have the time to spearhead this, but I can set up a repo and push out an idea and I'd gladly dump some cash into Archive.org and I think a lot of other people would to.

I really really think if that's isn't already happening it should. The conversations on that platform are our cultural heritage and this scumbag shit can suck my fucking dick. Die in a fire quarterly capital sleep under a painting of a lion dickwheels. Gut me for my past again. I dare you.

The archiveteam has been on it for over a month now

https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Reddit

https://tracker.archiveteam.org/reddit/

I believe they started archiving reddit stuff in 2021, in reaction to a different PR disaster. There was definitely a huge push to archive more and faster in the last month though.

Yeah man. I've got some resources that I can use to sound the caves and map it. I was worried about Archive.org because it seems like they are under a lot of pressure and NEED to be defended but it's not a thing that has evolved. We as humans, not relying on someone else need to do several orders of magnitude better than Archive.org did with GeoCities because GeoCities is interesting but Reddit is a literal Library of Alexandria. Anyone who is not either contributing to existing efforts to archive or putting their own scrapers together must really be living a fuckin dream. Heh.

Whatever. Yeah, I'm going to support those archiving efforts and lately I make a lot of effort to be as unprofessional as I can be on Hacker News. Like say words like fuck and balls and dick hole and shit. Seriously. The cooling effect and hive mind isn't about liberals or red pill or whatever. The real shit is that they tricked us into a JS library treadmill.

A world without infinite capital can't keep the treadmill running. YC is part of it. All of y'all scope out my fully animated streaming point cloud composite captures of my fucking nuts. This forum and the rest. Quarterly SV chasing the dragon. Yeah man. FUCK. I wasted so much time with this garbage.

Anyone who reads this. I'm nuts ignore me. All this is dumb. Just keep looking for a new job with someone who will pay you well and definitely respects you and your attention... and when you look back at the best effort in your life and you see NOTHING of what you ever created standing up because all they did was steal from you.... fucking fuck this.

Fuck yes. Thank you. I've avoided checkin in because as you might be able to tell this is personal. I have never seen Archive Team before. I am so ready to get involved and put my body and resources against the wheel. FUCK THIS SHIT.

In response to Reddit management's actions, the Minecraft developers will no longer be endorsing r/minecraft.

https://old.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/14kj3z7/so_long_...

This isn’t going to end well. I hope the IPO is a disaster as a result of all this nonsense that could have been easily avoided if Reddit had their shit together.

The mods are losing. If you search for "reddit gamedev" on Google, /r/gamedev is nowhere in sight, instead you'll see /r/gamedevelopment and /r/truegamedev (which are not private). The "eternal september" effect means that those other communities will quickly surpass /r/gamedev. It's simple internetology.

Simple internetology also dictates that when a site starts making the user experience miserable, users will accrete elsewhere. Discord is actively eating away at Reddit's userbase, to the point where community subreddits tend to be on-ramps to the "real" community located in a Discord, and in my perception the blackout seems to have accelerated this trend.

Discord is a fundamentally different thing than Reddit, and while they can steal some market share from one another, there will always be room for both of them.

Being fundamentally different doesn't necessarily mean there's room for the old thing. Sometimes, tastes just change and people move on to the next big thing.

Of course, it's possible. I'm just saying that we can't ignore the fact that Discord and Reddit are completely different mediums. Reddit is more like a series traditional forums, and Discord is more like a traditional AOL chatroom. I don't see any point in internet history where either of those media have lost popularity.

But, annoyingly, right now there are a ton of resources that should be a quick Google away locked in /r/gamedev

Lots of communties on Reddit have started the process of migrating to different platforms. The federated alternatives like Lemmy have had recent success although I question the complexity of it all in terms of getting mass adoption.

Most of the alternatives seem to be missing the core idea of what Reddit really is (a community of communities). I think first and foremost it's the community aspect of Reddit that makes it appealing.

I've been building a platform called Sociables which is intentionally not just another Reddit clone. We are trying to create an all-in-one place for people to create communities first and foremost and not just posts.

Here's an example of a community:

https://sociables.com/community/Sociables/home

> The federated alternatives like Lemmy have had recent success although I question the complexity of it all in terms of getting mass adoption.

It's a community by community thing.

Eg: Astro-nerds have places such as universeodon.com with 10K active users (more science journo's and tangential-astro than hard core gravitional physicists) which is one sub reddit equivalent.

With similar Fediverse clumps for various types of math, cyber security, alternative OS hacking, etc. things are happening.

Mass adoption might be missing .. but that can be a good thing, the charm of old reddit a decade+ ago was small groups of high quality.

Are there any public mirrors of the data dump from earlier this year? All of Reddit apparently fit in 2TB. It’d be good to preserve it, newsgroup-style.

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then they loose their users.

>then they loose their users.

Lose their users.

Although this seems to be more about mods. The average Reddit user was over this a long time ago.

That's a narrative that spez is actively pushing, but it's pretty far from the truth. I wasn't a mod, but I deleted my 17-year-old account (and 17,000 comments) and refuse to even lurk there now. I saw several older accounts do the same or plan to on the 1st.

I don't care for spez but aside from some mod churn there hasn't been any discernable difference in the subs I follow.

Personal anecdote here. None of the few Reddit users I know have a single good thing to say about mods.

I've had a few decidedly negative interactions with them. Perhaps I just got unlucky but it always felt as though they were on some kind of power trip. I'm hopeful the silver lining here will be that some of them leave.

I’ve had a few also. I was banned forever from one sub a few years ago for suggesting something like “sail the high seas” or “yarr”.

Full disclosure, I created and modded /r/joker for a while before giving the sub away and demodding myself. I was only ever banned from /r/latestagecapitalism and /r/conservative. I found the contrast funny. Anyway, being a mod is a pain and a pretty thankless job. The people who continue to do it either do it out of a love for the sub or as an ego boost. And reddit is often actively hostile towards any attempt to monetize (like including sponsored links in the sidebar, for instance). So I mostly just bailed on a sub if the mods got too toxic, but I have absolutely nothing against mods on the whole. Without them, reddit would have been even more chaotic than it was. Something like 5% of redditors contribute 99% of the content, and those are the 5% that are leaving.

some of the interesting subreddits are already saying "ok we'll re-open but now this community is about john oliver". /r/bestofredditorupdates use to be fun to browse once a week, now its about john oliver.

community open but the rules have changed.

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