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Tesla is valuing Full Self-Driving high only when it’s convenient

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> What is so frustrating about this is that Elon is always raving about how incredible FSD is and how most people “don’t understand its value,” but yet, Tesla itself heavily devalues it in used cars, despite not delivering on its promises.

There's no need to be frustrated. Just accept the reality of the situation: Elon lied to you.

Elon will always lie to you. It is simply his nature.

Indeed, Elon lies to himself first and foremost.

The conclusion is something:

> I think most people know the solution to this – other than giving a higher value – and that’s letting Tesla owners transfer FSD to new cars.

> It would encourage current Tesla owners with FSD to upgrade to new cars without feeling like they bought FSD for nothing, or barely anything, on their previous vehicles.

>I don’t understand why Tesla doesn’t do that. It wouldn’t be expensive, and it would help sales while creating some goodwill around FSD.

Shit like this only comes from Naïveté region of France, you know.

What, you mean a carmaker won’t willingly forgo $15,000 in pure profit just because someone on the Internet complained?

If the FSD program is being run anything like Twitter, we’re more likely to make contact with Aliens before FSD is actually FSD.

There should be a secondary market for FSD activations where you can buy and sell FSD independently of the vehicle. Hell, true believers should be able to buy it as an investment without even owning a car, then sell it to a car owner in the future.

Are people actually complaining that you can't trade in software?

Should you be allowed to sell books after you've read them? If so, then what's the difference between that and this?

I can sell a CD with software. Why am I not allowed to sell a car with additional software without that software being removed?

I might have misunderstood but I didn't see anything here about not being allowed to sell it.

The complaint was that Tesla didn't value it.

When you buy software you buy the right to use it. If the terms of the sale allow, you can transfer that right to a 3rd party. But you obviously cannot transfer it back to the manufacturer because they already own an unlimited right to do what they like with it. Your license to use the software has no value for them. What are they getting that they didn't already have?

What a very strange article. It starts by (rightly) expressing scpeticism that Musk's claim that FSD would increase the value of the car, and finishes by complaining that FSD didn't increase the value of the car. It's exactly what you (and everyone else) predicted - FSD does not turn your car into an appreciating asset and it never will.

What a strange comment. The article gives a thesis followed by support for that thesis.

I suspect we can blame the stock market for this decadence.

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