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> If you don't have something strong in you to guide you and keep you under control, you'll go wild, in his opinion.

ethics and empathy is enough. no need to have religion.

He wasn't saying you needed to have a religion. He was saying you need to have something.

Quite frankly that is the same line that AA uses, and it isn't any more accurate here.

understood. since i quoted him, i definitely knew what he said. what i said was related but relevant.