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Public web unravels in AI-driven storm

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Bedlam incoming from the unforeseen consequences of an unpredictable disruptor with broad capability.

The "AI clone wars" arriving soon.

"Anything you create can be created without investment cost while also being unique in design as well as delivering the same function or experience"

From - https://dakara.substack.com/p/ai-and-the-end-to-all-things

I stopped seriously reading at their personal interpretation of the "Twitter Files."

Some individuals serving in the public sector might want to "control your thoughts" with this new scary technology, but I think that's FUD and you're much more likely to encounter the private sector trying to control your thoughts.

The author mentions how large corporations will be very slow to adopt because of "endless processes and approvals," but fails to mention government bureaucracy. Yet "government" is mentioned in the story twice as much.

They are not mutually exclusive. However, there is significant precedent for government interest in controlling population narratives. We have agencies that exist for that purpose alone.

Additionally, Twitter Files just recently got another personal interpretation from the court which has now just blocked the government from such previous actions.

I understand that, and the public narratives being spun by the private sector about “Twitter Files” in an attempt to prevent government intervention in future cases where coordinated disinformation is used to attack governments and control its citizens.

Scary government is disproportionately represented in the story you linked, that’s all I’m observing here.

A conclusion made in the article - "these sites are trying to shut their technical gates so others can't gobble up troves of data for AI models to study." Isn't supported by anything. Maybe it's true? But it may just as well be speculation from the author. Is there any evidence to this?

I've never seen any good evidence for it, it's just what operators of the sites (i.e. Reddit, Twitter) claim as a justification.

IMO "following the money" indicates their disruptive wholesale access-restrictions are driven by much blander profit-seeking reasons.

I mean, it's known that GPT3 was trained on Reddit data with 3 or more upvotes. The training data is still available to download.

Perhaps, but what Reddit chose to do is not consistent with its stated reasons. A simple change to the terms-of-service and/or some rate-limits would deter those large-scale (and sue-able) AI companies, until Reddit could introduce some sort of "machine-learning tier" of API access and charges.

Instead they announced punishing fees on everyone and everything with barely any warning. That looks a lot more like a general push for blanket monetization. Their "nasty AI learning made us do it" statement looks more like a convenient excuse to deflect user-anger while simultaneously getting their company name in the news right next to hot buzzwords.

> And so, by restricting usage, Elon Musk is hoping to prevent its data from being pulled into LLMs. He wants to negotiate with AI companies and get paid for the content that they take.

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-66093324#:~:text=On%20Sa....

Wait until Us Masses begin realizing that these companies are using both our public-facing AS WELL AS PRIVATE MESSAGES within their dataset trainings.

I'm sure you're right, but reference?

I do not ever wish to be sued for libel, again; so instead, I will encourage you to learn about GPT2's specific training dataset, primarily upon one specific social media's contents (public and/or private. I'll let you decide).

Ah, it's fairly recent: https://www.businessinsider.com/openai-chatgpt-generative-ai...

Thank you for this citation, as it led me to the recent 160+ page PDF/lawsuit.

Maybe having something like confirmed identities and actually retaining some ownership over what you contribute online might be a good idea...

the article is referring to read access

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