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The same Michael Colborne this commenter is citing has also written that he "wouldn't call [the Azov Movement] explicitly a neo-Nazi movement", and told Haaretz in 2022:

"After the first few years of its formation, only a small minority of members had far right connections. ... The Azov Battalion and the entire Azov movement are almost completely untainted by antisemitism."

Not that I'm defending Azov. Just that I don't think that this commenter's apparent concerns about Azov's political beliefs are what they seem. I don't think they really care as to whether Azov is now, or ever was neo-Nazi in any substantive sense. It's just a topic they like to through around to push people's emotional buttons, and distract from far more obvious and important issues.

Pretty much exactly like Putin is doing whenever he plays the Nazi card.

"only a small minority of members had far right connections"

Of course its commanders are a minority.

"untainted by antisemitism"

So it's ok to hate other nationalities if it's not Jews?

No one idolizing Bandera and the likes of him cannot be untainted by Nazism.

"I don't think they really"

Pretending to read other person's mind and accuse them of insincerity based on that makes a poor argument.

"to push people's emotional buttons, and distract "

You mean people in Western countries might learn whom they are helping and ask questions like "why exactly have we been doing this"?

You mean those naive, brainwashed fools in Western countries might learn ...

We know all about the topic. However, it's clear from the overall tone of how you communicate here (and your endless evasions when cornered on simple factual matters) that you are either not capable of, or are simply not interested in anything even remotely resembling a productive discussion about it.

"We know all about the topic."

That wouldn't be the first time when the West uses Nazis against Russia. I hope you just lied and used 'we' instead of 'I'.

The rest of your comment is expectedly lacking any specifics.

"those naive, brainwashed fools in Western countries"

You might be right, actually. Naive and brainwashed Americans supported criminal invasion of Iraq in 2003 on the false pretext. And reelected Bush afterwards. So don't underestimate the power of Western domestic propaganda.

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