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> "Starting today, all paying API customers have access to GPT-4."

OK maybe I'm stupid but I am a paying OpenAI API customer and I don't have it yet. I see:

    gpt-3.5-turbo-16k
    gpt-3.5-turbo
    gpt-3.5-turbo-16k-0613
    gpt-3.5-turbo-0613
    gpt-3.5-turbo-0301

I don't see any gpt-4

Edit: Probably my problem is that I upgraded to paid API account within the last month, so I'm not technically a "paying API customer" yet according to the accounting definitions.

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> Today all existing API developers with a history of successful payments can access the GPT-4 API with 8K context. We plan to open up access to new developers by the end of this month, and then start raising rate-limits after that depending on compute availability.

Same for me. I signed up only a few days ago and was excited to switch to "gpt-4" but I haven't paid the first bill (save the $5 capture) so I probably have to continue to wait for this.

I made a very simple command-line tool that calls the API. You run something like:

    > ask "What's the opposite of false?"

https://github.com/codazoda/askai

Interesting, I did exactly the same (with the same name), but with GPT-4 support as well:

https://www.pastery.net/ccvjrh/

It also does streaming, so it live-prints the response as it comes.

The llm command-line tool looks great:

https://llm.datasette.io/en/stable/

It does, thanks for this! I didn't know about it.

are we out here typing our api keys into random pips and am i a boomer that i would be hesitant to do it

It’s not a “random pip”. The maintainer is a well-known open source developer (one of the creators of Django and Datasette). It’s also a very small codebase – not many places for malicious code to hide.

OK but I mean I don't know them and it could have been someone pretending to be them, and probably it's easily possible to trick me about API keys. We are discussing it on a hacker news website do you seriously think tricks couldn't be hidden in a repo like that.

https://github.com/search?q=repo%3Asimonw%2Fllm%20OPENAI_API...

Let us know what you find.

I found a few github issues related to api key security and management. I'm not 100% sure of your point.

I see no open issues.

It's around 1k lines of python, audit the code if you care and rotate your keys.

Or don't use it.

Do you only use software by people you know? At some point there has to be an element of trust when you run software you downloaded over the Internet. If a small utility maintained by a well-known member of the developer community doesn’t qualify for that trust, then I think that rules out an awful lot of software that all of us here probably use on a day to day basis. This is not an extraordinary level of risk.

> "well-known member of the developer community"

OK sorry I didn't know them.

I mean I usually use software that came with my computer or ones that I apt-install from the official ubuntu distribution. I know it's not perfect security but at least it's more than a hacker news link to a github pip. If I had to use other ones then it's usually from people I know.

So, I've been a paying customers for a while now and don't see it either :-(

I was a on paid account since last month and was never really billed for my $8 dollar usage. I don't have GPT-4 access either.

The official docs say, you need at least one successful API invoice to get access to GPT-4.

That's weird, just make me prepay $5 for credits or something.

Same. It's not in the model list response from https://api.openai.com/v1/models

can't speak for others but I have two accounts

1. chat subscription only

2. i have paid for api calls but don't have a subscription

and only #2 currently has gpt4 available in the playground

Same issue, any updates?

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