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Oh yeah, the old and tired argument that we haven't seen "true communism". I'm still waiting for it but till then, the ideology can be deemed invalid. I wonder if people that give this argument realize that they sound like religious cultists saying we haven't reached the true promise land...let's push harder! (despite all evidence being against them).

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It's just as old and tired as the defense of capitalism: "That's not capitalism, that's corporatism (or cronyism or anything other than capitalism)."

Oh I’m not pushing for them to “keep waiting”. I personally am of a mind that if you’re going to do “real communism” then just do it - don’t know how that works or looks, but we inevitably end up with governments like China when going the stop-gap route.

Personally I’d be more in favor of socialism. Even that requires a lot of retooling, and most countries would have an easier time with more regulated capitalism backed by more socialist governments.

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