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it's true. The year MAC has the best new reliable, and fast chip, PC has AMD with broken, burnt CPU / motherboard, Intel has a chip so hot to cool down.

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Even outside hardware, a fresh windows 11 install before you decrappify it is such a bad experience. Clickbait integrated into the OS, sponsored apps pre-installed like it is a $100 android phone, constant attempts to upsell you to their cloud services.

AMD had an issue, but really it was short term and has been fixed, seemed to only impact a few dozen CPUs and motherboard and only when overclocking a home built machine.

Yes it made quite a bit of news and drama, but it's all fixed.

With all that said Apple does have a premium product that generally "just works", is more power efficient, and has (on average) a longer life cycle than a PC.

What about the keyboard? I actually forgot how bad it was until I used one yesterday on one of the MacBooks

The new keyboards are better than the older butterfly keyboards and absolutely more reliable.

The new Mac keyboards are fine really, they rolled back from the problematic butterfly keyboards to the older magic keyboards (whatever that's actually called, but it feels a lot better and is a lot more robust) - thankfully I skipped the 'butterfly era' completely when I switched from a mid-2014 13" MBP to a 14" M1 MBP.

Apple had a dark period between 2016 and 2019 when the keyboards on MacBooks were complete and utter garbage, but in 2019 they admitted their mistake and dropped the butterfly keyboard.

Both my work-issued 2019 16” and my personal 2023 16” have excellent keyboards.

wow was it really in 2019 they switched back, amazing how long that stuck with me lol

Well, it was long 3 and a half years.

Long 3 and a half years that I didn’t even feel at all because I’ve never even touched a butterfly keyboard MacBook. My previous personal MacBook was a mid-2015 15”.

No worse than most other laptops, now. A little better than many of them. Not as good as back when Macbook Pros were still thick enough to hold a disc drive and the keys had a lot more travel, but nothing like the dark days of the very-loud, shitty-feeling, unreliable Macbook keyboards of a few years ago. Totally OK.

(FWIW I use a mechanical keyboard with mine when at my desk, but I don't, like, hate life when I'm away from my desk and have to use the built-in keyboard, even if it's for a whole week. It's fine. I don't even really think about it.)

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