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+1 Can't see any sane reason why either would be used for a new project in 2012.

Absolutely agree. I work with a very large "enterprise" (investment bank) and they deploy every one to two weeks. We wouldn't touch Spring or JEE with a barge pole. I don't know what world the author lives in.

are you using java at all, or something else entirely?

Scala or Java SE the way to go IMHO.

Scala is a language, not a framework. You can use Spring with Scala too [1]. Personally, I wouldn't use it for an enterprise project just yet, because of its compatibility issues. And why on earth Java SE? The enterprise edition gives you everything a standard edition does, plus libraries for messaging, transactions, persistence, basically everything you need to write a large scale enterprise app.

[1] http://www.infoq.com/articles/scala_and_spring

While Scala is not a framework, it can be used with many Java libs. It isn't necessary to use xml-heavy frameworks and app servers to write "enterprise" apps. Endless layers of OR-mapping and xml is not productive. There are endless messaging and persistence solutions available without resorting to xml-obsessed JEE and Spring.

@mgkimsal - yes java, moving towards scala on newer projects. We use simple, fast & testable solutions, such as a main class or servlet listener which constructs an application programmatically, rather than a monolithic spring or JEE configuration.

Could you tell us which framework you're using then? I know that most Java enterprise software is either on Spring or on EJB, I'd love to know if there's an alternative.

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