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the reason this is happening is science and rational thinking has really let them down in their lifetime, especially during the pandemic. they (and people in general) dont know what is real anymore, what to believe any more when everyone seems to be making up things as they go along, especially the so-called experts. why not review everything they have access to but told by the experts not to pay attention? ie they want to do their own research now.

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Maybe you are right. I still belive in science but stopped trusting anything experts say unless majority have the same opinion.

Politics ruining scientific community I belive

" stopped trusting anything experts say unless majority have the same opinion" I wonder what Copernicus would have to say about that

Think about it as odds. Unless you have the time to become an expert yourself, following the majority is more likely to be correct than following fringe opinions. Sue, sometimes the fringe opinion turns out to be the correct one, but which fringe opinion?

I think basic stats and critical thinking skills, even just looking at the scientists current and former funding is enough to spot the BS. Though given the state of the world I guess that's asking too much.

I hope you mean a majority of experts, not majority in general.

Yes, I have meant majority of experts

The article gives only anecdata as evidence that this is happening, mostly from astrologers themselves. I would question that it is happening at all. At least I found nothing objectively convincing for the thesis that "young people are flocking to astrology".

> the reason this is happening is science and rational thinking has really let them down in their lifetime, especially during the pandemic.

No it hasn't. Science and rational thinking are part of the reason that many are still alive. Without vaccines the number of dead would be far, far higher than it ended up being (and people are still dying of COVID right now, but fortunately in lower numbers and it looks like we can safely say the pandemic is behind us and chances of it flaring up again are low).

>Without vaccines the number of dead would be far, far higher than it ended up being

based on what? 'projections' from sources that commissioned the cures and the mandates? what to believe? who to believe? let's cue in data ambiguity and conflict of interest as among the reasons why this is happening.

most of the young people were not affected by the virus but had to lose key years of their life to save old people. they do feel let down.

I suggest you look at the world wide statistics from before the vaccine roll-out and afterwards. There is nothing to 'believe', that data is about as non-ambiguous as it comes and you should be very, very grateful that those people spent their lives learning the skills required to save our collective asses, especially in light of the way their contributions are being minimized.

And if you don't understand that then that's fine with me but that still doesn't mean that science has 'let you down'. You benefit from science every day of your life, even if you don't want to credit it.

actually british govt stopped publishing COVID infection/fatality data based on vaccination status because of risk of misintepretation :) ie a lot of folks that were vaccinated were getting [re-]infected and so on. i could dig the sources for you but i suppose we dont care anymore.

the fact is people feel physically, spiritually and scientifically abused by the handlers of the pandemic. and they cant talk about it cos they still get downvoted or truncated out of discourse. so they are taking a different route to calm themselves down.

I think you are just looking for reasons to believe what you want to believe.

You don't speak for 'a lot of folks' you just speak for yourself.

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