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Next-gen AMD RDNA 4 GPUs reportedly won't compete with Nvidia at the high end

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Meanwhile, the other rumor is that Nvidia stopped production on RTX 40 series in order to shift all manufacturing towards ML chips like H100. Seems like they're both in an all-out sprint to produce as many H100 and MI300X as possible. Which makes total sense to me.

I believe RTX 4090 (~$1600) is the same raw die as RTX 6000 Ada (~$10,000). Hell of a business, if you can get into it.

The 6000 ada has 48gb of gddr though.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-rtx-6000-ada-now-av...

True (and it's ECC to boot), but the extra RAM isn't that expensive (I'd WAG $500 at a stretch, based on an extra 8GB on 4060 Ti retailing for $100 more), and is also arguably the biggest mechanism of market segmentation between the two products.

Nvidia has the luxury to produce super die size ~800mm2 chip being partly subsidised / or sharing the cost with their ML / AL product range. AMD doesn't have that. So designing something below 400mm2 makes much more sense.

Considering Nvidia is currently capacity bound, AMD and Nvidia are competing on different market segment with different strategy.

This has been the normal report we've received since the Nvidia 200 days (a decade and a half now).

At this point, we can assume as much. It'll be news when they announce that they are aiming to compete at the high end.

The 7900 and 6900 series are high end.

The implication is that RDNA4 will be more like the 5000 series or the old 300 series, or the old Nvidia 750 TI: a new mid range die only.

They are high end but do they really compete with Nvidia's high end like the 4090?

They are within spitting distance, and thats fine. The 7900 series in particular is priced much more sanely than the 4090 or 4080.

In fact, AMD is missing a mid range die now, which is kinda odd.

I thought AMD was still far behind on the raytracing front, especially if you factor in DLSS as well.

Since cyberpunk came out with their all-raytraced option I'm really glad I have a 4090 because it really looks amazing. I believe raytracing really is the way forward.

FSR2 would be fine in 2077. The 7900 series is indeed slower at raytracing, but I'm not sure if it can handle 2077.

DLSS is nothing short of a miracle, but I am kind of turned off by it because its closed source, not "universal" like FSR1, and not implemented in most games, especially indie games.

How is AMD for AI projects like stable diffusion and text llm projects?

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