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My problem as a coach is, everything else is bad. Google Meet video quality feels like the 90s, they optimize for traffic costs. MS Teams is not easily usable from a meeting URL, but quality is higher than Google Meet. Other offers are often unreliable or low quality.

When working with a trainer for my language/pronunciation I also found out that many solutions have abysmal sound quality, Zoom is best by far.

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Yep - we've tried most (and have teams and meet FREE).

Jitsi - core functionality issues with video quality tied to network setups perhaps make it a no go.

If you work with a lot of folks for short bits of time everyone knows how to get on and work a zoom call.

Teams has weird permissions issues, consumer vs business teams, and is forced on so many people that they auto close it (reminds me a bit of the IE pushiness which can be a turn off).

Google Meet started auto-adding links to meetings - so most folks ignore a google meet link because they don't think it's a real meeting (and 90% of time it isn't).

> Google Meet started auto-adding links to meetings

You can disable that default company wide and force people to manually add it if desired.

The problem is a fair number don't do this. It's super annoying - why not do an opt-in or even a prompted opt-in to keep this to folks actually using meet maybe based on actual meet usage?

Oh sure, I don't intend to defend the default of enabling it, just trying to suggest a mitigation that might at least help internally within a single company.

> MS Teams is not easily usable from a meeting URL

Why not? You click on the link and if Teams is installed it opens the local copy. If not then you can do the call in a browser. What is the difficulty?

No. I have Teams installed, but if I click on a Teams link in the Teams app, it opens the meeting in the web browser. There was a decent stretch of time where it would go through a fail-loop in the browser before finally suggesting trying the meeting in the app instead, which wasn't actually possible because of the above. I'm really struggling to comprehend how messed up the development team can be to have a product as awful as that.

Last time I've tried it wants you to register and/or login, it sometimes loses the meeting in the process, you then are left with an application that tries to be Slack and you try to find the meeting in the app again, if you logged in to a different account than the invite to the meeting it gets lost etc.

But it might be different today, for those problems I try to not use Teams for some time.

Also if you use Teams all the time the experience might be different.

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