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I think patterns and best practices are still yet to be figured out. I believe you can create caller in a server component and it should work (https://trpc.io/docs/server/server-side-calls#create-caller), but the pages router appears to be a battle-tested solution.

In server components you can just await in the component itself so you don't need a solution like tRPC.

Could you expand on this?

You don't need it, but you certainly can prefer to use it regardless?

Hoping react-server-components <> trpc gets solved soon

If you use Server Actions, you can just call a server function from your frontend directly, no need for middleware like tRPC

https://nextjs.org/docs/app/building-your-application/data-f...

Thank you I only briefly read about them before and didn't consider them properly.

Will try out calling the database directly there, but I kinda liked how with tRPC I can add validation/auth checks etc/ will have to see how I develop my own strategy for that w server actions.

You can use zact for that

https://github.com/pingdotgg/zact

I'm using it with Next 13, but not using the new experimental app folder yet. No issues yet.