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And this is where the strength of Android shows. Just download and install the APK: https://github.com/talklittle/reddit-is-fun/downloads

And if this keeps up, someone will just make an alternate market.

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There are already tons of alternate markets, including one run by Amazon...

Two other (not only) android markets backed by well-known companies:

http://apps.opera.com/

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/apps/ (coming soon?)

You can jailbreak an iOS device and install whatever you want as well, that doesn't change the fact that Apple makes ridiculous decisions about what can and can't appear on the app store.

My problem with this decision isn't that it makes it impossible for me to install this one app, but rather that it looks very much like the path towards where Apple is, where maybe I have to install a custom Cyanogenmod build on my Android phone just to have the option to install non-'Play' APKs (this isn't the situation now, but I can much more easily see this happening today than I could a year ago).

Due to the popularity of external markets, like amazon, I don't think this kind of change is going to occur without a very huge shakeup.

This is a good point and I agree. Given that Google has already been looked at for anti-trust violations, I'm sure a move towards disabling APK installing that essentially killed the Amazon market on non-Kindle devices would cause a massive blowup and as such they'll probably avoid doing this.

I'd still rather support a company that kept that feature in because they believed in it rather than because they are afraid of what Amazon and/or the US/EU will do if they change it. Unfortunately, I'm less sure than ever that Google will do the open thing because it is the open thing and not because changing it to the closed thing would be too painful. And that sucks.

> it looks very much like the path towards where Apple is, where maybe I have to install a custom Cyanogenmod build on my Android phone just to have the option to install non-'Play' APKs

I find it very difficult to believe that Google will remove sideloading. Things have actually moved in the opposite direction. For example, after preventing sideloading for years, AT&T made the decision to enable it last May[0]. Apparently that was thanks to Amazon. So since there are already 2 dominant markets, I don't think it'll happen going forward.

Also, keep in mind that Google has a dominant position in the smartphone market, so such restrictions could draw interest from antitrust regulators.

0: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/05/att-sideload-android-...

And it's not Google's decision either.

You don't have to root or jailbreak your Android phone to sideload apps. You don't have to worry about future updates breaking your jailbreak. Just push one button in the settings and you can install apps from any source, even alternative markets like Amazon's app store. http://www.amazon.com/mobile-apps/b?ie=UTF8&node=2350149...

You do if you are on AT&T's network, at the very least.

Sure, not all Android devices require jail breaking, but some do.

Semicolon: learn it, love it, use it.

Since it's open source* it's already available in the F-droid repository (which in this context would be called a Market, if it weren't all free):

F-droid installer: https://f-droid.org/FDroid.apk

Web link to RIF http://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdfilter=reddit%20is%2...

* I'm currently using Diode which is a fork of the older RIF app.

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