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Which part of that is new, because I was pretty sure they were saying "we do not train on your business data or conversations, and our models don’t learn from your usage" already. Maybe the SOC 2 and encryption is new?

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They don't train on data when you either use the API or disable chat history, which is inconvenient.

yes, this is terrible. I want chat history, but I don't want them to use my data. Can't have both, even though I am paying $20/month!

Best way of doing this I have found is using separate browser profiles.

So i have one primary profile logged in normally and a separate tab which i turn off chat history.

So now I get best of both worlds

I don't see how that's the best of both worlds.

They want chat history and no training on the same conversation.

you can have different profiles on a single ChatGPT plus subscription?

Use a third party interface which uses the API directly like YakGPT or the OpenAI playgrounds, and you can save some costs that way along with a local chat history that’s not shared with OpenAI.

Prior to releasing the chat history "feature" there was an opt-out form that could be submitted, which did not have any impact on the webapp's functionality. I'm not current enough to know if that form 1) ever had any effect, and 2) if a form-submitted opt-out is still valid given they now have the aforementioned in-app feature.

Really? This seems like one Chrome extension away...

so that someone else gets your data?

Chrome extension is a no go.

Who says it can't save it to a local database?

It can, until the extension developer receives a tempting offer for it, as has happened countless times

Fork the extension and use your own then.

...which is a lot more work than "one Chrome extension away".

And you’re going to spend the time reviewing every single commit to make sure the dev didn’t sell out without telling anyone? Or risk running a potentially outdated and vulnerable extension?

And then you’ve gotta wake up in the morning and put your shoes on!

What’s with the argumentative tone? Do you think that the replier doesn’t know this?

The obvious point being that the “fork your own code and write your own kernel” attitude is simply unworkable for 99.999% of the population.

If we had to waste that much time re-inventing the loaf of bread, and then making sure that my neighbors didn’t decide to throw some raisins in my loaf, that we never get around to figuring out the next best thing: slicing it.

The argument you're making (you can't trust software whose you code you haven't studied) applies to every software package ever made.

Exactly. So we have to choose: trust everything reasonably mainstream with the hope that someone is watching it, or stop functioning.

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