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It has been a closely held belief of mine that we waste our time wondering about more intelligent life in the far reaches of space than right here on earth.

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The recent UAPs with seemingly extremely advanced technology could just as easily be coming from within our own oceans as from outer space.

Treating animals as anything more than "pets" or "food" here on Earth would inevitably raise questions about animal rights, ethics of our handling of planet's resources, etc.

We would rather eat live octopuses and pretend that finding life on other planets is more important than saving life on this one.

> Treating animals as anything more than "pets"

To be fair, the eugenics experiment that is the "dog" significantly increased the species intelligence.

Are you claiming that domestic dogs are more intelligent than gray wolves?

Yes , especially specific breeds like golden retrievers.

I think you're confusing trainability with intelligence. Golden Retrievers make great pets and hunting companions, but they're pretty dumb.

I could be judging intelligence by too few dimensions.

Obviously we should be doing both. How else are we ever going to taste the aliens?

Some places are beginning to phase out cephalopods as food. We'll see how long it takes Japan to do so... They're still hunting whales.

I just visited Osaka. From what I saw I doubt anytime soon.

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