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Airbnb bookings dry up in New York as new short-stay rules are introduced

theguardian.com

31 pointsmiguelazo15 comments

You can still rent out your spare bedroom of the unit that you're living in, but you can't rent out the entire unit while you live somewhere else. This remains in the spirit of the original bed and breakfast sharing economy idea.

However, you are limited to just two guests. I feel you should be able to rent a spare room to a family traveling with children. That seems to not be allowed.

I believe it's two adults. When I book at campgrounds or hotels they always have 4 guests maximum. But if I call and ask about my extra children their always totally fine with it.

The article says:

> More than two guests at a time are not allowed, either, meaning families are effectively barred.

Are they mistaken?

It's a shame articles like these don't include comments from those who have been priced out of renting/buying in part because of the new breed of buyers who are looking for short term rental investment properties (some "hosts" have dozens or even hundreds of units). To have this be the only comment (below) that vaguely touches on the context is either lazy or deliberately biased, given all of the airtime given to Airbnb talking points. I suspect this reasonable regulation is quite popular with the majority of NYC residents.

>“In New York City, residential apartments should be for residential use,” said Murray Cox of Inside Airbnb, a housing advocacy group that collects data about the company’s presence in cities around the world.

Other stories closer to the source on this from the past day:

NYTimes: New York City’s Crackdown on Airbnb Is Starting. Here’s What to Expect

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37404522

Wired: The End of Airbnb in New York

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37400973

Prediction: This has no affect on rents, unlike what is commonly claimed.

So much this. Animus towards Airbnb is simply envy. It is not possible to profitably run one while trashing a neighborhood.

People will spend twenty minutes reacting emotionally to this, never pay much attention to empirical changes in response, and never realize it was just fomo on their part.

Americans have this disease where they think the loopholes that serve their economic betters will benefit them one day - the delusion is so strong they will support policy that works against their own interests.

Economic betters? Isn't the most logical assumption that I run one? Enjoy your cope, peasant.

>Isn't the most logical assumption that I run one?

It was incredibly obvious from your first post that the person lambasting others for "reacting emotionally" was likely a host who might feel just a bit threatened by this news and buries their head in the sand when one of their sources of income pisses off others. "I'd rather keep getting mine, consequences to others be damned, fuck you very much."

>Enjoy your cope, peasant.

See? Just like that.

Ah, yes, every single person who didn't like Airbnb in their neighborhood was just "jealous". Right, gotcha, glad we've cleared that up.

Sarcasm aside, I'm pretty sure that, "YoU'rE jUsT jEaLoUs," and not providing any other kind of counterargument for those opposed to Airbnb is a great example of "reacting emotionally".

> Prediction: This has no affect on rents.

Why?

Good riddance. Short term rentals have been banned in NYC for a long time, but Airbnb chose to simply ignore the law and continued to let people list their properties, arguing that the burden of enforcement fell on the city and not their platform. And when the city did make plans to start enforcing the law they had the audacity to run PR campaigns, lobby and finally sue to block it – thankfully all in vain.

Short-term rentals are cancer to communities and should require proper zoning.

I’m not completely against it but I don’t want a short term rental next door.

Cities/villages should designate areas for short term rentals and tax accordingly.

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