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Well yes that's exactly what I said: it had been very very widely adopted

I don't see where you said that. It sounded to me like you were insinuating that hooks are inherently better than class components, and that zero functionality has been removed from class components, they are still viable (but they have largely been left in the dust by most popular libraries).

Also, devs don't use hooks primarily because they are better. They use them because they are idiomatic React in 2023.

That's akin to saying people don't like Taylor Swift's music because it is good, they like it because it is popular.

:hmm:

It is not akin to saying that. Please argue in good faith [1]. Writing idiomatic React code makes a lot of practical sense (easier-to-find examples e.g. in the docs, wider library support, onboarding newbies). You can choose to use hooks while acknowledging the tradeoffs from class components.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

> zero functionality has been removed from class components

yes, exactly!

> They use them because they are idiomatic React

right, and do you think it'd be easy for a feature to become idiomatic if it wasn't an improvement over the previous patterns?

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