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And the US barely has an inherent interest in Saudi Arabia. Israel is credited for helping the US "fight terrorism in the Middle East" or maintain those puppets, but really they're just helping us help them. When it comes to things that don't directly benefit Israel, they don't care. Israel has never even fought ISIS for example, the largest recent terrorist threat in the region. And they're allowed to maintain some neutrality in situations like Russia's attack on Ukraine. You might even call them neutral wrt ISIS since they aren't in this mostly symbolic list: https://www.state.gov/the-global-coalition-to-defeat-isis-pa...

For all the things Israel has done against the US's wishes (like West Bank settlement), the US has struggled to do just one thing Israel doesn't like: the Iran nuclear deal. But at least one of our major parties is somewhat willing to push it. I think they're also somewhat annoyed with our focus on Ukraine.

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It’s truly shocking how misinformed you are about foreign policy.

Israel attempted to maintain some level of neutrality wrt Russia bec when they show preferences, Russia punishes the local Jewish population… which they promptly did as soon as Israel showed any support for Ukraine.

Israel shares a ton of intel with the US regarding many of the local terrorist organizations in the ME. Not to mention they’re flying sorties into Syrian airspace almost nightly. (Infamously Syria AA shot down a russian spy plane, killing 11, thinking they finally caught an Israeli plane)

And Israel’s absence from that symbolic list was likely a precondition to get many of those Arab and African nations on the list. Israel has ISIS locally so there’s no doubt they’re fighting isis.

Finally wrt the Jordan’s west bank: they lost it years ago and it’s so odd you keep calling it that… maybe use the actual name for the area and suddenly Israel’s policy will make sense.

Are you an NSO psychopath or something?! Those funny propaganda jokes you're spewing are not working. The Israeli Hasbara lies are so bad and funny (Oh we won the land instead of we are scumy occupiers and land thieves haha.) This Israeli murder cult is sad and pathetic.

your bigotry doesn't do your argument any favors. of course there isn't really an argument here, just hate.

You're the one who has no argument, other than pure hatred. Any sane human being would be against criminal genocidal ideologies like Zionism and Nazism. Cheering the monstrous crimes of those political ideologies is nothing but vile hate. It is a murder cult, come with an argument or f off. It is not my job to educate you if you're brainwashed.

Not an appropriate comment for here.

> And Israel’s absence from that symbolic list was likely a precondition to get many of those Arab and African nations on the list. Israel has ISIS locally so there’s no doubt they’re fighting isis.

Israel has never fought in any battle involving ISIS or carried out any smaller strikes against them. Some others who aren't in the coalition, like Russia, have. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_and_battles_invol... Their operations in Syria have been against regime forces, Hezbollah, and other targets unfriendly towards Israel, not ISIS.

Even if there's significant ISIS presence in Israel (which I've never heard of), it hasn't convinced them to help fight ISIS next door. Their stance is neutral, and they don't pretend otherwise.

> Israel attempted to maintain some level of neutrality wrt Russia bec when they show preferences, Russia punishes the local Jewish population… which they promptly did as soon as Israel showed any support for Ukraine.

I didn't say there was no reason, because obviously there would be, including trade. They have been allowed to stay mostly neutral.

> Finally wrt the Jordan’s west bank: they lost it years ago and it’s so odd you keep calling it that… maybe use the actual name for the area and suddenly Israel’s policy will make sense.

It's the common name for the region used in America, that's all. I truly don't know what other name you had in mind, but whatever you call it, the US has been unhappy with Israel's policy.

> Even if there's significant ISIS presence in Israel (which I've never heard of), it hasn't convinced them to help fight ISIS next door. Their stance is neutral, and they don't pretend otherwise.

this is simply false. They help a ton and as I've said they've directly attacked them both within Israel's 1919 borders and assisted with attacks elsewhere in the region.

> I didn't say there was no reason, because obviously there would be, including trade. They have been allowed to stay mostly neutral.

so then why bring it up? but again, trade had nothing to do with it, its to protect the innocent people who cannot leave russia and who will be discriminated against due to their religion (much like you are doing right now).

And yet you can't point to any evidence of Israel actually fighting ISIS, just your word...

> who will be discriminated against due to their religion (much like you are doing right now)

... and supposedly I'm a bigot if I show you otherwise. Not cool, I'm done here.

100% agree not cool to be a bigot, please do better

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