The revelation is that the bullet was not lodged in JFK and did not fall out while shaking about on the gurney.
The revelation is that the bullet was not lodged in JFK and did not fall out while shaking about on the gurney.
All of these conspiracy theories would die if those taking them seriously would just sit down and read the Warren report. If you can then find something specific in the evidence or conclusions that is wrong or illogical or seems like it was covered up in the report, please point it out.
“ Arlen Specter, who had traveled to Dallas to take Tomlinson’s deposition in March 1964, was thunderstruck when Tomlinson relayed this scenario. To judge from a transcript of that conversation, Specter spent much of the remainder of his time with Tomlinson essentially trying to talk him out of his recollection, causing a distressed Tomlinson to say he just was not sure about his memory.
But the Q&A itself clearly suggests that Tomlinson, unprompted and unbadgered, had a cogent recollection that a bullet, wherever else it ultimately ended up, had come from the stretcher that had already been left in the hall in front of the men’s room.
In its final report, the Warren Commission mentioned nothing about this detail from Tomlinson’s account. Instead, the panel largely dismissed Tomlinson’s testimony, writing that even though he was “not certain whether the bullet came from the Connally stretcher or the adjacent one,” the commission “has concluded that the bullet came from the Governor’s stretcher.”
As sibling points out, Oswald may have been a scapegoat or patsy.
The stories all say that the FBI reported the minimum time to fire that rifle was 2.25 seconds. How was that determined? How can a supposedly experimental result like that have no error bars? Was it determined by repeated firings of the gun found in the sniper's nest, or by another similar gun presumed to be an exact duplicate (of a 20-year old mail order gun?) for purposes of that measurement? It is known that Oswald spent some considerable time (maybe and hour or several, I don't remember) 'dry firing' the rifle the night before. Could he perhaps have developed speed superior to that of whomever the FBI asked to do that experiment? Has the 2.25 second minimum ever been replicated? How could the person trying to fire the gun as fast as possible for the FBI ever have as much adrenaline flowing as Oswald, the man who had previously tried and failed to kill General Walker must have had.
The revelation is that the bullet was not lodged
in JFK and did not fall out while shaking about
on the gurney.
I'm sorry, this is not correct.This pristine bullet was previously thought to have been found on Connally's stretcher, not JFK's stretcher.
It was thought that this bullet traveled into JFK from the rear, exited his throat, and then wounded Connally.
If Landis' claim is true, that would upend entirely the Warren commission's findings. Of course, we probably can't really know the truth at this point. But the article makes a solid case for it being quite likely true.
Not so. Three shots were fired according to about 85% of the witnesses. Previously, we had a missing bullet. The bullet Landis found might be that missing bullet, previously explained as having vanished someplace in Dealey Plaza. Oswald may have fired it while his view of the limo was partially obscured by the tree. If it made some slight contact with the tree, it might have caused the small bit of flying debris that nicked one of the spectators, then continuing its flight at a lesser speed, hit Kennedy's back, popped out of his back, and been found by Landis. The other magic bullet the Warren Commission may have figured out pretty accurately. Which bullet was the one found at Parkland? Given all the unanticipated mayhem that day, it could have been either one, but one would not expect that both of two wandering bullets would have been found. Many's the detective who has been baffled by red-headed identical twins.
It's a bullet. It just was next to an explosion that cleared it most most evidence. Then the barrel rifling altered the metal. That would not be harmed by picking it up. Then it went through jfk. Okay, we already know his DNA is on it.
The real question is why are you picking up random things from a crime scene and then putting them down in a hospital stretcher.
Probably seemed like a good idea at the time. My wife was in car accident once where the airbag deployed. For some reason her immediate reaction was to roll down the window. People in stressful and perilous situations sometimes do things that make no sense.
Why wouldn't she open a window?
It’s funny how advertising depicts air bags as these soft pillows when they are anything but inviting during the moment of deployment.
The bullet they are talking about is the "magic bullet" that hit Kennedy and Connally. The bullet that hit Kennedy's head distinegrated and they found fragments.
> The bullet they are talking about is the "magic bullet" that hit Kennedy and Connally. The bullet that hit Kennedy's head distinegrated and they found fragments.
The explosion they are referring to is the one inside the firearm when the firing pin strikes the cartridge.
No need to be unkind.
I don't really know, but it hardly seems like good practise to pick up a bullet. Don't crime scene investigators usually take calibrated pictures of important items such as bullets and often try to determine the trajectory?
There's also the chain of custody to think about - the bullet could easily have been swapped with a different bullet after he left it on the stretcher.
Of course it's not but that was no ordinary crime scene. There were thousands of people about, what would happen to the vehicle etc., etc? There's no way the crime scene could be secured in such a short time. And JFK had to be rushed to hospital. Nothing was certain.
He saw the bullet as evidence and on the spur of the moment secured it. After that he was likely in shock and thus his actions were more that of an automaton.
I’m kind of inclined to expect peculiar behavior from him.
From the NYT article. It also mentions that crime scene integrity wasn't as much of a thing at the time, which seems questionable at best. But still, if you believe the choice is between keeping or losing the bullet, you definitely take it.
And his “only law enforcement experience was being in the Secret Service? That isn’t a low bar.
Maybe because he's 88 years old and likely to die soon? More or less a deathbed confession.
Consider that Watergate's "Deep Throat" Mark Felt only came forward at age 91.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/09/10/watergate...
So if true (not that we can really know at this point) if the pristine bullet was retrieved from Kennedy's car then yes, that would upend everything.
If the story in the article is true, the bullet Landis found - i.e. the famous "magic bullet" - could not have wounded both Kennedy and Governor Connally and have been shot from the Book Depository (to Kennedy's rear) as the so-called single-bullet theory[0] requires, so it upends the Warren Commission's version of the assassination completely.
* https://spacecoastdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/JFK-A...
look at the arms. Kennedy is resting his arm on the car frame and Connally cannot. The seat he is in is not lined up with where Kennedy is. The bullet needs no magic to go in a straight line.