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Even that... isn't great. Certainly step up from "just a bunch of carbohydrates" but not exactly super healthy either.

Carbohydrate intake has many factors including 'speed of processing' which is retarded by the presence of fiber and fat. So while a serving of muesli might 30g of carbohydrates it also will have 5g of fat and fiber and protein, which affects how fast your insulin levels rise and how high the spike.

There is nothing wrong with carbohydrates, it's over consuming them that's the problem. Müsli without added sugar can easily be a part of a well balanced diet. It's basically just a different form of oatmeal.

Carbohydrates are just sugar your body has to work a little bit to unlock first, but they’re just sugar. They’re really not much better for you than raw sugar, they’re just slow dose. They’ll spike your insulin a little less, but ask a diabetic, the overall difference isn’t a ton.

Fiber is a carbohydrate the body can’t digest so you can generally subtract them when figuring, but beyond that carbohydrates alone are just sugar as far as your body is concerned.

Ok. You eat a sugar cereal every morning, and I’ll keep eating my old fashioned old meal with no sugar. Let’s compete weight and A1C in 10 years.

As is everything in biochemistry, the absorption rate sets the response. 5g of sugar that can only be digested over the course of hours is much different than 5g of sugar that can be digested in minutes.

So basically you're advocating for a keto diet for everyone and every time? That's silly. Carbs are not intrinsically bad.

Also, all sugars are carbs but all carbs aren't sugar. Don't take shortcuts.

> Carbs are not intrinsically bad

No, but most people shouldn’t be consuming it as a ritual.

You are definitely not French :-) Food preparation and lunch is a ritual for us.

But, I will also add that in the primary school we had to learn how to balance a diet over a full week. Because you cannot balance on a single day...

But the fiber content makes you feel sated sooner, so you are likely to eat less of it than sugar.

And musli isn't processed as much as other breakfast cereals. We don't know what causes it yet, but there's a clear correlation between eating highly processed foods and obesity.

Where are you getting at? What is the point of your reply?

If muesli were simply a slightly better carb, that would make fruit the same. The fiber and more complex sugars are what make you feel fuller and glucose levels less volatile.

You might be confused about what musli is..

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