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Landchad: A site dedicated to turn web peasants into Internet LandChads

landchad.net

59 pointsjudiisis54 comments

The method introduced here depends on third-party VPS, which is operated by person other than you. Hence it doesn't make you a complete "landlord".

If you wish to make a website from scratch, you must first invent the Internet.

The operator of the Kiwifarms is experiencing this firsthand.

Or you could more realistically host a server at home and teach the "Chad" how to setup DNS with dynamic IP.

Self-hosting guide is also there, slightly below in the page https://landchad.net/selfhosting/

Oh, I didn't notice. Thanks for pointing out.

This looks like an awesome resource and site. I’d love to become a landchad. But my main concern is setting up (and relying upon) and email server which is flagged as spam or even unreceived by outlook, gmail servers etc.

Is this still a valid concern?

Are there ways around this to setup a server and get into gmail and Microsoft’s emails good books?

I’d love to become non-reliant on gmail. If anyone could provide their knowledge on this would be awesome

One compromise that I can recommend is hosting the Email server yourself for incoming mail, but using an external SMTP relay such as SendGrid or SMTP2GO to send outgoing email. That way you never have to worry about your emails being blocked due to some misconfigured setting. Switching SMTP relay provider is easy so vendor lock-in is no issue.

Also, those services are mostly intended for broadcasting mass spam mails for better or worse, so for personal use their free tiers are almost too good to be true.

Gotta be willing to suffer losses. The only way we can stop this from happening is if enough people stop using gmail so google actually can't get away with whitelisting email domains. Doing it naively, game theory is not in our favor, like with climate destabilization, but making it cool (like OP does) might actually help?

You can start by having your email server “hide” behind gmail or friends.

I’d be interested to hear a specific expansion on this point (“hide” how? etc). I think the gp raises some valid concerns.

Have your Gmail account pull emails from your in box, have Gmail send as if from your email address.

Exactly this - in "Exchange" terms they called it something like "smart host" if I remember. But basically you use a major provider to do the final "connect to the internet at large" but everything is on your machine and you could change your outbound routing at anytime.

Such an obvious solution when you point it out that way. Thank you!

I don’t think the web peasants will ever learn as much as you would growing up with and building servers at home. I wish you could still do stage 1 installs and things still didn’t work so nicely. That’s how I got my chops; you want a multi monitor setup on Linux better RTFM for X and figure out how to manually configure it and deal with the configuration randomly breaking until you chattr it. Learning I feel was easier when things weren’t as good as they are now. You get less time just troubleshooting in general which I think is really what I do, at the end of the day I describe what I do as “I solve problems”. Random rant for nostalgia over.

If learning to read or write was like that, sometimes the book is blank, or in a foreign language or the pencil sometimes makes a mark and sometimes does not.

I agree partly - but mostly it's ok to learn like that when someone else is paying for your time (parents, employer whatever).

Web peasants will just have/find/create a different set of problems to solve, no?

That requires motivation to find vs forced to figure out.

I like the idea of the site, but yeah, the entire vibe around it throws me off - 4chan vocabulary (peasant/chad), call for donations in an obscure cryptocurrency, fully anonymous.

Maybe I'm doing the site injustice, but it smells like being run by some 4chan/ancap/"don't tread on me" bro.

But what about the technical content? Why are you so quick to jump to identities. And donations are the best way to give money - nothing is locked away and you get to choose. This style of site/information should be celebrated.

I was mostly thrown off by the word "landchad", because "chad" does have a lot of bad connotations - at best it's childish, at worst it's associated with incels.

The technical content looks great and yeah, I can applaud the person's cause.

It's just that I don't think the challenges of running your own server were ever just technical - if people have a motivation to do something, they'll learn much more complex stuff. The thing is that there isn't a lot of motivation for ordinary people to setup (and maintain!) their own server if some cloud megacorp archieves the same. So I think, you also have to explain why you should want to run your own server as a non-nerd - and I think starting with 4chan might archive the opposite here.

Yeah this part of the site:

> Most of the internet’s problems could be solved if more people had their own personal platforms

Could really be expanded upon. A small, not overwhelming "Why" section would probably improve it. I think this does raise an issue. If you wanted to suggest a change to this site it's not straightforward how to do it. It's clearly a community style resource because the different services sections seem to be written by other people.

I think you're overthinking what's just some internet humor. I find the site quite personal and humane, and much more likeable than any PC-corporate SaaS blog.

"Chad" is a common word in Internet culture in general. Monero is also not "obscure" and the entire purpose is that it's anonymous.

The site's aesthetic wouldn't be my first choice, but I applaud the fact that's goofy and playful and not yet another boring, flat design that appeals to the lowest common denominator by not offending anyone.

I dislike the vocabulary as well but XMR is by no means obscure. It’s the most widely accepted fully anonymous crypto currency used on most darkweb markets

Oh great, that doesn't make it better...

That does sound bad but it actually means it's the only crypocurrency that has any inherent value and real world use as an actual currency.

Its not fully anonymous, its by the youtuber luke smith. He has a video on it as well as links from his personal site.

So whats wrong with that anyway? Nevermind the 4chanophobia, but its telling that that is the crowd in most pursuit of freedom.

> 4chanophobia

You say this as if being a 4chan user were some inherent, immutable trait, rather than a choice that reflects personal attitudes and values.

My opinion is that there are far more positive values that they have than people are willing to admit.

BTC and XMR are obscure? I'm not sure that's true.

Its great resource and XMR (Monero) as well

>but it smells like being run by some 4chan/ancap/"don't tread on me" bro

If the information provided is accurate and useful, so what?

In 2023 everything must be viewed through an identity lense first, whether it’s quality/correct second. Or at least that’s what we’re being told to do by our moral betters.

It's funny

It is really disappointing that a free resource showing you how to run your own stuff on the internet has been flagged. Isn’t this the exact spirit of hacking?

And for those complaining about the donation links, this isn’t the app store, it’s the internet.

Useful but slightly odd to have a call for donations along with zero ability to see who runs it, how to contact them, etc.

Pretty sure that this is a project by Luke Smith but it really is a useful resource despite any meme imagery/political leanings.

It's by Luke Smith. https://lukesmith.xyz

Does it matter who runs it if it’s useful?

For the person you replied to, it apparently does, or they wouldn’t have asked. There is no objectively correct answer to your question. Perhaps you meant “should”?

You mean having privacy? I thought HN crowd is all about privacy. Also donation, as in opposite of having a gun to your head to part you with your money.

Yeah no I wasn't talking about privacy. I was talking about "Hey please donate, you cant contact me for any other reason, nor will I tell you if this is run by a developer who wants to help people out or if its a springboard to an unrelated commercial product that you will be funding."

It's not exactly a bizarre concept to want to know who you're donating money to.

Then don't donate. Again, no gun at your head.

Interesting that there are a few tools I hadn't heard of on that page. Going to check out Yarr.

Oh, great!

Why was this flagged???

Probably this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37622415

Stupid reason to flag but there it is.

Dictionary.com's slang dictionary says[1]:

> Chad is a usually disparaging internet slang term used for a popular, confident, sexually active young white male. Its female counterpart is Stacy, who is often portrayed as Chad‘s sexual partner. Use of Chad is associated with the incel community and the website 4chan to refer stereotypical alpha males.

[1]: https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/chad/

‘Chad’ is common across the whole cyberculture and I’ve seen it used by many of my IRL friends: male, female, cis, trans, left, right and none of whom hate women or are incels.

It was popularized in the 2010s by ironic image macros like “the virgin ‘walk’ vs the chad ‘stride’ “

Thanks for the context; I wasn't very familiar with that expression or with its current usage, hence my surprise.

Wether you like the origin or not (I don’t particularly care), I think it’s fair to argue “Chad” is pretty much common parlance on the internet at this point.

> the incel community

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