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In theory they are trained to avoid the workers to lock their sessions. I think they can’t do anything if it’s locked anyway but most workers are not loyal enough to their employer to risk being prosecuted for hindering an ongoing investigation.

Most workers aren’t involved in anything bad so most of them will not hide proof.

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So business could train employees to do that immidiately when a raid happens, they could even run training sessions (like a fire alarm training where everyone has to pretend it's a real fire, or doesn't even know it's not real), but that would probably raise red flags.

If a business asked me to go on a training session with this in mind, red flag. Big red flag. I think most people would react similarly.

Oh, the joy of being a prosecutor and finding such training material. Case opened and won right away!

How so? No data is destroyed, just kept private.

Hidding information is seen as obstruction, usually illegal in itself, and shows intend behind whatever illegal and anti-trust violations happened... No idea why this is so hard to understand...

If an unknown entity bursts violently into your office, locking your computer seems a very reasonable security precaution to take.

I would assume the French legal system has methods like most democracies to require a company to retain data and request a copy of that data. We're talking about a corporate office here, not a drug packaging center hidden in the basement of a suburban home where everyone hurries to flush narcotics.

The whole chain of command involved in this could go to jail for obstruction of justice, maybe even conspiracy to defraud the US (depends on the interpretation of fraud).

And there cases where exactly this happened. But sure, the cloud is outside of nation police jusrisdiction or some such.

This depends on where you live.

In Ukraine, this is something that is assumed by default as a basic life hygiene.

I would think that’s illegal. Also I would quit if I was asked to do this. Not worth going to jail for a job.

I'd support jailing the executives of any business that engages in such training.

Uber had a similar setup and used it multiple times. Locking stations when you get up as a matter of policy is smart anyway, but most places don't automate that.

That doesn’t matter at all. If they want to forensically I mage that machine, locking your sessions won’t do shit.

Most Windows PCs have Bitlocker disk encryption turned on, so locking the PC would make it much harder to capture the contents.

In case of companies, it is easy: get a court order and every corporate counsel not completey on crazy train will turn over whatever authorities ask for.

Legally compel the user of the machine to unlock it. Most people will fold immediately. No one is going to risk jail and a long legal battle for a job.

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