As a parent I would like to know which approach demonstrably reduces the harm done to children.
Is there any reliable data on that?
Is there any reliable data on that?
Would you leave your kids for the night at the house of someone who enjoys making AI CSAM?
Probably not, but social ostracization and targeted bans by law (makes AI CSAM = cannot be a teacher) could stand in for a full legal ban.
Less importantly, your smoking in movies analogy is not very applicable because smoking is legal and smoking in movies is legal. Also, there are ads for smoking in public, like at gas stations.
FYI, many countries ban smoking in movies and in advertising (which should be the norm), for this exact reason. For instance, in France: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loi_%C3%89vin
Also, one has to explain to me why the right to own CSAM is so important in their society. Why should the rights of people having a child rape fetish be protected and enforced? How about the rights of the children (and their parents who would like not to live in fear of such individuals).
I'm astonished about the level of precaution here. What's next? We have no clear data about what would happen if we offered nuclear ICBM to Zimbabwe, so why not do it?
https://www.kidspot.com.au/parenting/australian-child-psycho...
I'm astonished about the level of precaution here. What's next? We have no clear data about what would happen in the future so why not ban all child psychologists?
> Is it complex?
Your trite CSAM --> pedo's "argument"?
No, that's hardly complex, more overly simplistic and unbacked by actual data.
> Why is this thread full of pedo apologists?
Gosh, is that weak shade directed at myself?
For the record I've no love for pedo's, I've worked with law enforcement to track pedo's, etc.
What I dislike is weak, soft brained, unjoined up thinkings that lack sound data backing .. which this thread is also full of.
Consider, for example, the despicable and depraved Brother Paul Francis Keaney, MBE, ISO (5 October 1888 – 26 February 1954).
Well known paedophile offender, famously gave weight to the expression "Christian Buggers", oversaw a concentration camp dedicated to the perpertration of systematic rape of children, etc.
Not once associated with CSAM.
we can have a nuanced conversation about how you support making thought-crimes illegal, and how we alreasy know videogames dont cause violence, but somehow because children are involved we have to ban every single thing possible
The comment you replied to was the first comment I made in this thread and the only comment in which I wrote that content, this is my third comment in this thread.
Are you always this confused and misguided?
Do you have a study on that that you can link to?
I feel like so much of what is done in this space is based on what someone thinks would work, not what actually does, making us all waste time and effort. Very much like the "videogames cause violence" argument.
Paedophiles existed before such materials became widely available. Arguably it was more common back then. What's the reason and how to stop it?