Seriously — what are people going to do with it? It's illegal for insurance companies to discriminate. I'd post it myself on GitHub if anyone showed the slightest interest in using it.
Seriously — what are people going to do with it? It's illegal for insurance companies to discriminate. I'd post it myself on GitHub if anyone showed the slightest interest in using it.
For how long ? Being jewish on record in Germany in 1930 was fine, in 1940 not so much
Data is forever, laws, regulations, governments, &c. aren't
If you want to take that bet, let me know and I will send you my contact info.
Get back to your crystal ball and tell me when the war in Ukraine will end and how much will a btc be worth in 5 and 10 years
If people in this forum believe Musk when he says fully autonomous vehicles will be there in two years (since 2012) and that the AI singularity is coming this decade, the possibility of genetic testing being extended to pre conditions isn't so crazy
Genetic data will definitely be used to limit freedom of movement somewhere on Earth in the next 25 years. We’ve already been mass-swabbing for COVID for the past three years, so it won’t be that big a change.
well well well
A concrete example: What could the consequences in today's USA political climate be of having a massive database be with columns: Firstname, Lastname, y_chromosome_present.
Only for health insurance. Other types of insurance companies are free to use that data to discriminate against you, include life, disability, and long-term care insurance.
You're confident enough that nothing can be done, to the point that you'd take the risk for no upside. That... doesn't sound rational to me?
We know now, they are going to leak it.
Everyone is going to know that I'm an Ashkenazi Jew who is more likely going to have blue or brown eyes and hair loss.
Whooops.
We know where Meryem was born (govt records which you probably helped make public), we can read James' twitter feed and we know the relatives of political figures (except for all the illegitimate children).
So yea... I'm still not seeing the issue here.
We are assuming James posted such details to a public twitter feed. That does not account for the others who did not. The issue in Meryem's case is that obtaining birth records is not guaranteed (especially from a foreign country), and that birth location isn't the same as genetic ancestry. Regarding Alex:
> except for all the illegitimate children
That is part of my point. If my absent parent were actually some famous politician, I would personally not want to have that information leaked. Some might not care - that's great. My point is a simple one - just because having private medical info exfiltrated is not really a big deal for many people, doesn't mean that it's ok to give a pass to the parties responsible for the exfiltration.
Your original comment was all about hypotheticals, so yes, it opens up the discussion to assumptions.
Agreed that, in general, it sucks that stuff leaks out. That said, every time someone brings up 23andme, it feels like one of those "the govt is going to shut down in a week if we don't do something!" type of headlines that seem to be on repeat... where in the end it turns out that at the last minute, something is done to prevent it, and everything turns into a giant nothing burger.
> More that govt's, in general, have a habit of leaking personal information for their own benefit.
I 100% agree with this.
Cheers!