Escaping the city is one of the best things I ever did. So much cheaper and the quality of life got so much better, for so many reasons.
If I ever want to go do stuff, its only 30-40 minutes away too.
WFH has been liberating for so many people.
If I ever want to go do stuff, its only 30-40 minutes away too.
WFH has been liberating for so many people.
Living 30 or 40m away from the city was great in theory, but sucked given that we did that trip every weekend (or sometimes during the weekdays). Also, the suburb we lived in was not walkable at all. The sprawl was insane and sidewalks were a rarity.
I guess people who prefer city life are those who like the faster pace, dynamics of more and more variety of people, art, food, services, parks, festivals, etc. etc. Not that one preference is better than the other.
> If I ever want to go do stuff, its only 30-40 minutes away too.
Lol. Spoken like a suburbanite! :D Depending on where exactly you live, everything in Manhattan would be within 30-40 minutes.
> WFH has been liberating for so many people.
Also, many cities see an increase in residents (but a decrease in office workers). People like to work from homes in the city.
But I don't mean to be disagreeing. Glad you found what you liked, and many have followed your path.
It's a bit annoying living outside the core when you are young since cabs are expensive and regional pubic transit unavailable late but outside of that everything else is pretty close to just as accessible you just have to plan more in advance where when i lived downtown I could just be bored one afternoon and go find a cool event
Yea, I'd say this is probably the worst part about living outside of a city. Just not as many events to go to easily. At the end of the day though, the 30-40 minute drive isn't too bad when its something you really want to go to and plan for.
Also lots to do outside the city of you like nature.
Use a bike? If you don't want to cycle all the way to the city park it at the last all-night public transport stop and take the bus/tram/train/whathaveyounot to the city from there?
Maybe it is my Dutch heritage or maybe just common sense but anything up to ~15km is within an easy bike ride range, 20km if needed. OK, you can't get drunk like a skunk but why would you do that anyway? A few beers are fine, you'll cycle them off anyway.
In my eyes cities look at their best when you see them disappearing on the horizon after a pleasant night out.
I've never been to Toronto so maybe this prospect is totally unthinkable there but I've spent a few weeks around Vancouver - it was meant to be only a few days since I was scheduled to fly out on the 11th of September, 2001 - where cycling was just as feasible as in most European cities.
As mentioned regional transport is spotty at night and even then you are probably looking at a 15-30km trip from the nearest stop on 80km roads with small shoulders. It's also completely out of the question for the 6-7 months a year snow is on the ground.
Mainly, how the actions of others (good or bad) don't have as much of an effect on me. Believe it or not, one of the main things was people smoking weed. People would smoke it endlessly. I attempted pretty much every solution before moving. It smelled awful and got into my sinuses and would make me get an instant sore throat. Similar to cigarette smoke. I guess I'm allergic but basically if it got in my respiratory system, my sinuses would be effected and make it next to impossible to breath through my nose. This often would then lead to sinus infections and always a sore throat every night. I literally felt like I had a cold every other day.
I moved apartments but the same damn thing happened. Now, that could be bad luck or it could just be a new normal, I don't care to find out though.
Also now, with an actual area to do "DIY" stuff, I can run power tools and play guitar with amp without annoying anyone, lol.
>Lol. Spoken like a suburbanite! :D Depending on where exactly you live, everything in Manhattan would be within 30-40 minutes.
My bad, by "stuff" I meant city stuff like shows, entertainment, fancy restaurant, etc. For day to day, I'm only a 5-10 minute drive. I've actually been saving a ton of time in tons of ways you don't really consider. 1-2 hours of groceries a week is better (at least according to my wife) than 20-30 minutes every few days.
>Also, many cities see an increase in residents (but a decrease in office workers). People like to work from homes in the city.
That's good. Seems we all are getting what we want, thanks to WFH.
Before moving to the city, I expected the traffic and crowds would be the primary drawback compared to suburbia. But I’ve found that the smells and sounds of my own neighbors’ activities to be the worst, like running their loud AC 24/7 even in winter, and spraying copious Lysol and febreeze multiple times a day.
Love living in this city with all of the activities nearby, but I’m 100% ready to gtfo and don’t think I’ll miss it.
Also, I get that you're going to smell food/odd stuff from neighbors from time to time but there's only so much you can handle.
It's interesting to see some people seek to be further from others. I imagine it like particles in a given volume: fewer particles collide less, while I happen to love the energy of more (though not things like second hand smoke in my home). To me, it's like going to a concert - I want it to be wall-to-wall, not mostly empty. (Again YMMV.)
Oh yea, 100%. The second place I got the problem was not nearly as bad but still made me feel sick about once a month during a "party" or something.
I had the pleasure of living next to 3-4 college kids. I guess they split the rent. I also moved to Texas where its generally not as legal so I believe they tend to use devices that limits the smell/spread. So it wasn't nearly as bad but sometimes you just wanted peace from that, ya know.
And yep, to the particle analogy. I had plenty of good interactions with people. Sadly, the negative ones just sucked too much.
For retirees, especially when driving is a problem, all the service, transportation, etc. can be great. Also, you have time again for all the fun and want activity, unlike people raising a family who barely have time to sleep.
> “Parks” for instance…from my experience, a city would not be where I’d first look for this.
Cities often have all sorts of interesting and varied parks, often beautifully designed, with public art, museums, etc. Look at Central Park, Golden Gate Park, the parks along the lake in Chicago, etc. Look up all the parks in Manhattan alone. LA has wild valleys near the Hollywood Hills. And if you look around, you can find lots of wonderful, unknown, small parks. The economy of scale - resources to design, build, etc. - can lead to some wonderful spaces.
Obviously, out where there's more space, there are larger undeveloped areas; those differ from urban parks.
30-40 mins away from downtown isn't better to me (in fact, so much worse. But to each their own..). Maybe Uxbridge or something?