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Passkeys are typically synced to cloud storage.

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That does seem circular in Google's case, no? What cloud storage?

Google Password Manager.

https://developers.google.com/identity/passkeys/supported-en...

Which I cannot access because I lost my passkey device.

Will I still have access to that if Google decides randomly to lock me out of my account?

Given their awesome track record, Google is the LAST company I'd trust not to shut down or lock me out of such a critical tool.

If you are on Apple ecosystem, iCloud can sync. Other password managers like 1Password can also be used to store your passkeys. If none of the above, you can always set up a physical security key and leave it at home.

IMO if you're reading hacker news, you're fully capable of setting one up and leaving it in a safe locale for recovery.

Not just typically - on iOS, you cannot use them at all without iCloud enabled.

Perfect! I keep iCloud off, so this is one "improvement" I can continue to sidestep for a while.

On iOS you can use third party software to manage passkeys, there is no inherent cloud requirement.

Can you? If so, this is great news.

What apps support this?

Third-party passkey providers got added with iOS 17. I don't know which apps apart from 1Password support it yet but the API is there.

Source?

>Note: To use passkeys, iOS 16, iPadOS 16, macOS 13, or tvOS 16 (or later) is required. iCloud Keychain and two-factor authentication must also be turned on.

https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/use-passkeys-to-sign-...

Third-party passkey providers got added with iOS 17.

https://www.corbado.com/blog/apple-passkeys-integration

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