It seems these students are at best idiots, or at worst giant jerks. But either way exhibit really poor judgement and most employers value judgement in their positions.
I don’t think student behavior should follow them their whole life so a lifetime ban is probably not a good idea. But would you want to hire someone who signed such a statement?
Or affiliate with a school that supports such organizations?
That's the cause of the backlash since while it can be acceptable to say that what Israel has been doing to Palestinians is wrong, nothing should justify terrorism.
If you're saying that Israel deserves all the blame, you're saying Hamas is blameless, thus supporting Hamas.
IMO it's messed up that this is going to follow those kids for many years in their careers, but on the other hand, most of these kids have probably harassed others with the "free speech isn't freedom of consequences" bs too.
And let’s make no mistake, what they are doing is terrorism on a much larger scale.
Intent matters quite a bit.
When Hamas stars criminally prosecuting its soldiers for killing and raping civilians then you can start talking about how Israel and Hamas are similar.
But equating Israel incidentally causing civilian deaths with Hamas purposely is not helpful to the conversation.
Also you might want to reevaluate your moral compass if you think bombing a hospital, especially when they are so limited, is ever okay.
Unlike Hamas, Israel's target is Hamas members and not random civilians - many not even Israeli citizens - who were enjoying a music festival. There will be civilian casualties in what Israel is doing, but it's fundamentally different from terrorism as the civilian deaths are not the primary goal.
Edit: Are you trying to push the unreasonable interpretation that by saying "unfolding violence" the students were referring to Israel's response rather than what Hamas did?
Also yes that is what I am saying and no it isn’t unreasonable just because you say so.
> That's not war, it's terrorism.
Which is it?
Not with that wording, it isn't.
Plus for what's worth I spent the past week researching stuff about Gaza, and my opinion went from "yeah, the Israeli are definitely jerks here" to "this whole mess happens because a minority of palestinians just refuse to admit they lost". Which sounds like an admirable thing, except surrender is what makes societies function. Take away surrender, and all fight is to the death. I stopped blaming Israel.
Think about other similar large wars: France surrendered in ww2. Later Germany did as well. Each of those failed to turn into a decade long blood bath. Then Vietnam - US left, the south lost, and Americans are now moving there for retirement.
That’s poppycock.
I think that both sides are in the wrong in that mistakes have been made. But to say Hamas is chopping up ravers because of the Israeli government is not only incorrect, but, even worse, stupid.
I’m typically not one to complain about “tone deaf,” but it reminds me of someone standing on George Floyd’s corpse and saying “all lives matter.” Of course all lives matter, but that’s not the point.
Israel and Palestine doing dumb stuff for 50 years, yes. People excusing Hamas’ behavior because of Israel, ridiculous.