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People choose to live in HOA neighborhoods. Those people running the HOA are normal homeowners, usually like minded. So to bitch and moan about HOAs is like moving somewhere people think differently than you and being mad you have to follow their rules. I prefer to avoid that myself, so I don't live in and HOA neighborhood.

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1. Let’s keep our arguments a bit higher brow. 2. Most people have no option other than to live in an HOA neighborhood, which is not a choice. At least short of abandoning their family.

Higher brow? Parent post played the Stasi card.

That’s no excuse to say that people are bitching and meaning. In that sense we’re all bitching and meaning about something or another, and dismissing someone’s argument as such just degrades quality.

The important part about a downward spiral is to not continue it. This is doubly true in a context where the parent post is using questionable rhetorical tricks.

Parent is attacking HOAs in general(=stasi HOAs). You are discussing parent(=bitch and moan).

> Most people have no option other than to live in an HOA neighborhood

Where?

> People choose to live in HOA neighborhoods

They don't choose to live there, they have to because a lot/almost all of new developments is done under HOA rules and you gotta live somewhere.

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