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Lots of bad things have happened because of and since the previous "wir schaffen das".

Last time I checked, we actually did manage it, the last time I mean. Care to elavorate which bad things happened because of it? Because happening since is pointless, we have the war in Ukraine and Covid for example since then, and neither has anything to do with it.

>Last time I checked, we actually did manage it, the last time I mean. Care to elavorate which bad things happened because of it?

I'd rather not get flagged.

Ah, ok. So let me guess: Cologne attacks, serial raping of women, criminal clans? Just picking some BS talking points from top of my head.

Did you notice that almost every store in Berlin has a security personnel at the entrance? It wasn't like this before, but I remember being really confused when I saw this in Paris in the early 2000s. What happened? Do you think Hans and Jürgen have broken bad?

The downgrade in everyday security is something they simply accepted as a compromise, just deal it and also stop romanticizing Hans and Jürgen.

The new Year's Eve assaults were not BS: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015%E2%80%9316_New_Year%27s...

Not only that, denial of it appears to have been one of the instigating factors in launching far right parties to prominence.

There is a difference between ignoring them and seeimg that they were blown way, way out of proportion...

And wow, it was in 2015? Forgot that it was almost a decade ago... People really, really should be able to move on... Well, they tried, but the endangered, lawless swimming pool narrative didn't really catch on, did it?

It's totally reasonable to say that these incidents are not significant enough to change immigration policy. But the attacks were not "BS", and falsely claiming them as such a big part of what fueled the rise of AfD and other far right parties. Even if you don't care about veracity, I'm sure you don't want to help support those parties, right? That's why you shouldn't call these events BS.

The attacks, few as they were, are not BS. What was made out of them was, is and always will be utter horse crap. What worries me is people, who believe that, pushing policy based on those believes.

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