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That's most likely 5 min for the initial build of the dependencies though, a one time thing.

I find the build times on Linux quite reasonable.

Does that include the Swift compiler or standard library or something? I can't think of a single other language that has a 5 minute compile time for hello world...

It wasn't a hello world, he said he created a hello world web app. Those are two different scopes.

I'm not sure that really changes the criticism, though? 5 minute builds for a hello world application in most any context sounds scary.

Sure, a framework that insists on building BoringSSL (on the first build, but not on incremental builds) has no impact on the long initial compile time.

I built BoringSSL WITH optimizations and it took ~1m40s on a Ryzen 5600x. Maybe the OP has a slower CPU but still 5 mins is a lot.

Users shouldn't be met with compile times that long on a "Hello, world" program.

For comparison, a "Hello, world" server in Rust with Axum and Rustls takes 25s and 16s in release and debug mode respectively.

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