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Comment by batmansmk | Hacker News Reader

Really not interesting for us. Makes what’s simple simpler and what’s hard harder. Sure for a quick prototype website with 10min only that would help, but any decently sized app that needs auth/localization/high performance in memory/offline/optimistic updates/batch fetching … all become way harder. It feels like react unchained from Meta’s constraints and it looses its appeal.

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Which part of this release do you find more difficult? For applications that need those dynamic constraints, like auth and personalization, we’re working to make this even easier starting this this version.

This version also includes stability for Server Actions, which includes a hook useOptimistic for optimistic updates.

I agree the offline story isn’t great today and we could do better there.

Thanks for checking with us. SSR makes auth based routing harder as well as any faceted renders like localization (because now not only the cli needs to query the api, but also the rendering server, with all the CORS/security config that goes with it). Offline is obviously harder. Integrating some specific build features like css pre processors are harder too, as the SSR needs to hook itself up in the build process in very specific ways. The mixed approach with pages/ and apps/ makes it so hard for 3rd party supported libs: mantine 7 wants to sit in apps/ ad that was the only way their css preprocessor could hook cleanly with nextjs whereas the previous version wanted to sit in pages/ etc. Sharing components with our emailing platform isn’t possible anymore. It only runs on web now.

I understand the need as a business to address more use cases that buys servers. But as a current user, upgrading to a new nextjs has been mostly painful and unrewarding.

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