“Modern cultivation methods, mechanization, chemical fertilizers, pesticides and herbicides” don’t require the use of state farms. Evidence: farms in other rich countries of the time such as Western Germany and the USA.
“Modern cultivation methods, mechanization, chemical fertilizers, pesticides and herbicides” don’t require the use of state farms. Evidence: farms in other rich countries of the time such as Western Germany and the USA.
I was referring to post-war Eastern Europe where land property was so fragmented that famines would still happen because individual peasants didn't have enough land to meet MVP (minimum viable produce of anything should anything go awry and it always did).
And 1900s Germany doesn't require state farms precisely because commercially viable land was already concentrated enough (though heck knows what sacrifices that we'll never know) to be viable in the hands of capital that has the means to handle it.
State farms were a great step forward for humanity, in spite of the terrific occasional human costs it incurred on the imbeciles who couldn't read the times. Capital where it wasn't compared to no capital, that is.
Talking about 1900s Germany, that reminds me of a story my grandpa told me. He had a cousin that moved from rural Romania to urban Germany in order to work in a factory, after abandoning his pig trade that my grandma was doing (fattening pigs and selling them in an animal market). The idea was not to immigrate but to make enough hard $$$ as to buy here at home enough land that he couldn't have even dreamed otherwise. An early IT-guy I guess :)
Anyhow after he came back, the women of the village asked his wife who was at all times following him. "How did you manage to buy things given you speak no German at all?!". "Well, unlike the backwards shop here where the seller sits behind a counter under the presumption that you'll steal shit and asks you what you want, in Deutschland shops are open space. They provide you with a basket on entry, into which said basket you freely pick stuff from shelves in the store and all you have to do upon exit is show the basket to the clerk store and they will show you the number. You pay that (it's just numbers so you don't have to know any German at all) and off you go".
That was 1900s... Very advanced by comparison.
Although peasants made 60% of the population in Romania in 1990 when revolution happened, and they still make a big chunk today, less than 1% of software developers in Romania originate in a village. And the ones like me who made it this far are met with scornful comments like "well, you wasn't really a peasant because youz family was if not rich at least definitely not poor".
"Shoot the Kulaks", right?
What you are regurgitating is spoken precisely from the vantage point of a well fed ignoramus.
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How come calling victims "imbeciles" is ok while my response is not?
Also, creation of state farms happened through actual violence. Property was taken away from people and owners were put to jails or forcibly moved. I do not call it stealing as insult, I call it stealing because that is what it was.
It wasn't ok—it breaks the HN guideline against calling names—but we just didn't see it. The problem is that you responded by breaking the site guidelines considerably worse. That's not ok, regardless of how bad some other comment was or you feel it was. The guidelines are clear on this: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
By the way (this is unrelated) - did you not see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37488716 or https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37396401? I've been trying to let you know that there's a problem with your account and I have no other way of contacting you.
Only difference is that I argued against praise of state farms rather then argued against slavery or what not.
I was not much keen on sending my email and then just forgot about it.
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it was in fact this very experience that made me realize that i can live in other countries without having to learn the local language before going there.
I spent most of my adulthood time in Europe talking to non-Roman speaking languages like German, French, Bosnian, Magyar.
First thing to realize about non-Roman languages is that non-Roman doesn't equal Latin. It helps but eventually you're gonna need to learn Russian, Magyar, German.
Sparkled by insults to victims.
And no, they were not performing better then western alternatives nor an improvement. These states could make liberal reforms, but choosen to go dictatorship way and people pay the price.