Canon's ultra-thin lens "eliminates the protrusion of smartphone cameras"
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> The manufacturing method of this metalens is also worth mentioning. Using next-generation nanoimprint semiconductor manufacturing equipment developed by Canon, it is possible to mold the material by pressing it against the material like a stamp. It can be produced much faster and at a much lower cost than regular lenses
I always get so much fun asking 'pEoPLe NEED thIn phOnEs' people to tell which model is made in 2023 and which one is made in 2011:
Exhibit 1
H: 146.6 mm (5.77 in)
W: 70.6 mm (2.78 in)
D: 8.25 mm (0.325 in)
Exhibit 2
H: 159.9 mm (6.30 in)
W: 76.7 mm (3.02 in)
D: 8.25 mm (0.325 in)
Exhibit 3
130.7 mm (5.15 in) H
68.9 mm (2.71 in) W
7.1 mm (0.28 in) D
(MAXX: 8.99 mm (0.354 in) D)
Sure, monocrystal lenses have their good points, but for smartphones to get rid of their 'protrusions' people should start actively voicing they don't need paper thing phones.
Any rational company would have standardized the parts inside a phone like IBM did with the IBM PC.
Any company that is run by people who're capable of reading and understanding history books would probably not do that.
IBM released the PC in 1981 and effectively left the "standardized component" PC market in 2001, when they shut down the Aptiva line. That's a 20 year run, which saw IBM try to move away from Intel and into their own RISC processors for the last 5 years.
And its height, IBM was shipping 750,000 computers a year. In 2022, Apple sold that many iPhones every day.
IBM created a market by allowing other companies to make PC clones, but that pushed margins to unworkable levels and effectively forced them out of the market.
You are comparing 1983 to 2022 in an industry that experience exponential growth over that time.
Eliminating the bump is nice so your phone lies flat.
And let people have their valid personal preferences around the size, thickness, and weight of their phone. What pleasure do you get out of making fun of other people's preferences?
Oh, it does. Because the loudmouths cry what 'phones were never so thin, that's why now there is a bump'... except they were. In 2011 of all times.
> Eliminating the bump is nice so your phone lies flat.
Not designing ultra-super-thin phone so you would need a camera bump (and a case which would bump the thickness of the phone back to non-ultra-super-thin) would be nice too. But Apple did The Bump and Apple continued to do it, because that's how they make their consumers feel entitled (did you forgot fake bumps and cases for the other vendors phones?) and every one else followed the suit. Hell, cheap phones with the cameras from the previous century still sports these ridiculous bumps, circles and whatever, despite not having any reason to do so, if anything they can do a shallow pits instead of bumps for their cameras. [0]
> And let people have their valid personal preferences around the size, thickness, and weight of their phone
Yes, exactly, please, get your Apple tainted hands off the personal preferences of people and let them have the phones without a stupid bumps, which would increase (or on anything less than $500 would not) the thickness of the phone for the whole ungodly amount of one millimeter. You can stick additional 500mAh there so that phone wouldn't die after a mere working day.
All Apple fanboys can have their apples, or non-apples, or whatever, but at this moment there is no alternative at all.
> What pleasure do you get out of making fun of other people's preferences?
Their preferences are imposed on me. That's the main thing people like you can't understand.
[0] a fine specimen to illustrate: https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_a03-pictures-11244.p...
Well, duh.. I think that’s kind of the point. So many people use cases anyway to protect their phone, or embed it in a wallet style case. I want the phone to be thin so the phone with a case and a couple of cards is a reasonable thickness for my pocket.
Yeah, if you made it thicker maybe you wouldn’t need a case for protection. But cases also provide customisation, decoration, and protects against scratches.
> You can stick additional 500mAh there so that phone wouldn't die after a mere working day.
IMO cases should be the answer to this too. Although it’s not implemented well enough yet, even with Apples MagSafe. Adding battery for more than a day of active use is a waste of resources for most people when almost everyone will plug it in once a day anyway. If you do it every day it’s a habit and you won’t forget, so it’s the best way to do it.
If you could have a case with extra capacity without adding much thickness, with an efficient connection that doesn’t involve wires (so not sure USB-C or Qi/MagSafe is the right solution), it’d be ideal. The case battery could be discharged first so it’s the first to wear out (which is easy to replace) and the internal battery could last much longer.
Then you could have 2000mAh extra capacity if that suited your use case better and don’t mind a chunky phone.
Battery banks do serve this purpose to some degree of course, and has the benefit that you can continue to use them if you upgrade to a phone with a different form factor.
That's orthogonal to needs/doesn't camera bump. Everyone can do whatever, but it's the guys who cries about thinness, yet stick them in a giant cases.
> Adding battery for more than a day of active use is a waste of resources for most people when almost everyone will plug it in once a day anyway
As some who prefers not a razor thin phones (specifically since RAZR MAXX, lol) there is not a lot of difference in weight and size between 3500 and 5000mAh models[0]. Sure, most people plug it in once a day, but I prefer no to panic what my phone is out of juice by the evening if I couldn't plug it in somewhere during the day. With my usage patterns it's up to 3 days easily and one less thing to keep in my mind. That outweighs additional 20g and 0.9mm.
> Then you could have 2000mAh extra capacity if that suited your use case better and don’t mind a chunky phone.
Sadly there is no usable connector suitable for this, along with a not a bulky enough casing to not to be sued when someone punctures it and burn their home, dog and grandma.
Though if you are old enough you can remember what the phones had a regular, replaceable battery and some models also had a bigger battery as an option. We know what happened with that idea of user replaceable batteries (the same shit as with the bump).
> Battery banks do serve this purpose to some degree of course,
The thing is what pretty often I see people who run their phones of the battery bank. Literally. They use their phones so much (SM and content) what they running out of juice by the evening. I bet at least some of them would've preferred an option to have the same phone they have but with a bigger battery and without the need to haul the b-bank too.
NB I'm pretty regularly run around with a three phones at once, it's ~540g in weight and almost 3cm in thickness in sum according to gsmarena. Sure, I'm not 40kg/150cm asian lady, but I really know what it means heavy and thick, lol. Yes, they are often all in the one pocket of my jeans.
https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?&idPhone2=10724&idPhon...