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Framework should be a listed contender here. Same CPU but better maintainability.

I have two framework laptops with Intel CPU. I unfortunately would not recommend framework with Intel - they can't handle any development workload through docker without the risk of launching to the moon from the fans spinning. I hope that AMD ones are better.

As a counterpoint, I've had a 12-gen Framework (i7, 32GB RAM) for almost a year and half now. I use Docker on a daily basis (using Windows and WSL2) and it works fine for my development workloads.

Like other Intel laptops I've had, the fans do come on occasionally but not very often. I do have some qualms about this laptop but I'm happy with it and the tradeoffs I chose.

That's actually quite interesting - same configuration with i7 1280p and on windows and wsl2! Blah, I wish I knew what you were doing differently. The moment that Chrome, Slack, Docker and PyCharm are up and running, it gets quite loud :(

Not meaning to sound condescending, I explain to users that the cooling systems are much like cars. At idle the fans may turn on then turn off. But when you're driving on the highway or racetrack or even stop and go traffic, those fans are always on.

>The moment that Chrome, Slack, Docker and PyCharm are up and running, it gets quite loud :(

It sounds like you're at least cruising on the highway. Not to mention, you may be experiencing other bugs, either with the software or OS. Maybe try toggling windows defender and see if the issue persists.

https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-293604/IntelliJ-is...

Honestly, not much! I also run PyCharm, Slack, Firefox, and other things. This does get the fans spinning from time to time but no so much to make it a complete deal breaker. When it happens I may open task manager and see what's up in case there's something odd going on.

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