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Americans wanted this. A huge chunk of the population has fought tooth and nail (to their own detriment) to: - Prevent the use of Automation (Robots taking jobs) - Prevent Outsourcing (Mexicans taking jobs) - Prevent Unions (Don't collaborate)

So now they got what they wanted? pre-revolutionary manufacturing? low pay, low responsibility, little growth. Uncompetative(in a bad way)! Way to go.

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Who exactly are these Americans who are against all three of those things. It would seem that the workers would be against the first two and the owners would be against the Unions.

How exactly does outsourcing jobs and automation increase a factory worker's pay?

Im not saying all 3 are correlated... As someone who grew up in American Manufacturing, built a tech company around it. Americans at large argued for these 3 counter intuitive things within the sector and weakened it. IMO.

I don't know how to unravel this knot you've tied with out having a lot more questions answered, but your concepts seem a little muddled. Automation and outsourcing jobs will not lead to higher pay here. That much should be obvious.

Im not a researcher, just some bloke on the internet, I feel like commenters on hacker news expect too much from these obviously personal opinions.

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