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It would be great it people would pay Rui to make mold versions for Windows and Mac, which ideally would be required before making it a part of the official Rust tool chain.

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He did monetization the wrong way around, IMO. Most CI is on Linux, but most developers are on Windows or macOS, so he should've capitalized on the Linux builds being paid while the local developer builds on Windows and macOS being free.

I doubt that anyone cares all that much about linking times in the CI. And even if someone does, it's probably an individual developer or team, ie, someone without decision power to pay for something as niche as a linker.

Also, mold was designed as an alternative to gold / lld, therefore it would require to be open-source and free on their main platform: linux.

Well, CI is where the costs are, and if the application is big enough, even a few percent reduction via faster linking times would equate to lower costs, while in contrast, developers won't really care or notice a few percent reduction on their local machine.

It's AGPL on Linux now, and they sell commercial licenses for companies that won't touch that license, and they were contemplating earlier making mold only available under a non-free source available license like BSL, so there's no "requirement" as such that it be free and open source, even on Linux.

I care deeply about linking times on CI. It's very frustrating having your code all build and run tests locally just to wait a long time for it to pass all of the CI barriers. Plus, CI builds often go stale much faster, so you're looking at much longer build times without caches.

Sure, but you're not really contradicting me unless you're able to get your company to pay for faster tooling. And if you can, why haven't you already?

Well, yes, that is the crux of this argument, that one can convince their employer to use mold. Otherwise, what is the point of using it? Desktop users by and large will not notice a small 3-5% improvement in compile times while those that pay for CI will.

> Most CI is on Linux, but most developers are on Windows or macOS

Do you have any data on this ? Maybe that's industry dependent, but I hardly know any Windows (not even talking about macOS, that's almost nil) developers outside of video games and web dev. 100% of Rust devs I know use Linux, to keep on the subject.

Data that most people don't use Linux as their day-to-day desktop OS for development? I suppose you can just look at desktop Linux statistics, which shows <5% usage. In my experience, most use macOS, or Windows via WSL2, which does use Linux but I am not sure if that is actually reflected in any desktop OS statistics.

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