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Contrary to what this heading suggests, nothing has been "decided" here. This article is not only inaccurate, it is falsely misleading.

The Committee on Civil Liberties, Justice and Home Affairs (LIBE) adopted a "draft Parliament position" [0] and that's that.

This still needs to go through so-called "tri(a?)logue negotiations", held between the EU parliament, commission and council. [1]

Still a tad early for calling this a win!

[0] - https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20231110IP...

[1] - https://netzpolitik.org/2023/ueberwachung-eu-innenausschuss-... (German)

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> Contrary to what this heading suggests, nothing has been "decided" here. This article is not only inaccurate, it is falsely misleading.

The heading indicates a committee adopted a position, and that's true.

The original title was "EU Parliament Decides That Your Private Messages Must Not Be Scanned" and it was linked to a different article, I think this comment was written before the title and the url were changed.

https://web.archive.org/web/20231114102908/https://news.ycom...

Interesting! Thanks.

They changed both the title and the article? Or did they move the discussion to a different post? It feels a bit like the Post of Theseus.

> tri(a?)logue

It’s not a trial-ogue. It’s a tri-logue because it involves three parties.

Another spelling for trilogue is trialogue*

* https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/trialogu...

I stand corrected. Thank you. In retrospect it makes sense, since we also write dialogue and not dilogue.

“Di” as a prefix is normally adequate when referring to two (dimension, dilemma, dichotomy, etc) and yet it acquires an “a” in “dialogue”. Possibly a similar word constructed from the “tri” prefix should also have an “a” inserted.

But "a"/"an" is also used to negate so it can't be placed at will.

Could //di-a-logos// mean dividing (like in dissecting) something that ISN'T understood?

Analogs systems aren’t about dividing, are they ?

"di" is the part that means "two" or "cut in two", while "a" is negation.

The etymology of dialogue is from the Greek `dia` meaning `through` and `logos` meaning `words`.

https://www.etymonline.com/word/dialogue explains the common confusion with di-

Thank you! TIL.

Tripartite might also work

Ah, yes: negotiations between the EU Father, the EU Son, and the EU Holy Spirit.

Are we wrong XD?

Was also gonna drop trilateral

> danaris

Princcccesssssssssss!

You may be thinking of Daenerys?

I'm just Dan Aris.

Your name has no right to be that slapping ;)

It's also not a dial-ogue, but a di-a-logue because it involves two parties.

Ah, so this is what the whole polylogue has been surrounding

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