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My 2019 car is not connected to the internet. Instead, I use Apple CarPlay for everything.

Is there any reason not to do it this way?

My cars are from 2019 and 2001. I don't use CarPlay or any internet features in any of them. Instead, I just use my Android's screen itself for navigation and bluetooth for phone calls and music.

Perhaps there are advantages to tighter integration with my car (at least the newer one) but IMO they are outweighed by the risks of things like this, or even just getting a software update that borks a small feature that I like.

CarPlay and Android Auto has no risk like this. It is great because it is just a protocol for your phone to be able to use the screen in the car. Your data stays on your phone, and there is no risk of intrusion.

CarPlay is not an internet feature. It’s basically a screen mirror, and I plug my phone in via USB.

Quite a few reasons but primarily CarPlay doesn't know about your vehicle's charge and road trip navigation requires external inputs to determine your charge route.

Apple could potentially offer an API to have "reverse" CarPlay where the car's app can feed information into iOS. I recently rented an Mercedes EV which had Apple CarPlay and it was a weird experience having to manage two sets of experiences.

The exact API you describe already exists in CarPlay.

Today I Learned... that's great to hear!

Manufacturers should be required to expose an agreed upon spec API that provides range estimate, battery state, etc. So CarPlay and other apps can access the info in a standardized way

100%. I've owned Teslas since 2017 and always found the infotainment to be very good. Though I've really preferred Apple Maps routing recently. The descriptions of when to turn are much more human.

Apple holds up their end of the deal by supporting the EV Routing feature in maps. It’s entirely up to manufacturers to expose the information at this point.

Well for one Rivian (and Tesla) don't support CarPlay or Android Auto.

Sounds more like a reason not to buy Rivian and Tesla to me

More potential for anticompetitive vendor lock-in (sugar-coated as differentiation), and more opportunities to profiteer from stalking behavior (sugar-coated as telemetry to improve user experience).

Then automakers can’t sell your information for fat stacks of cash.

This, and automakers do not want to become dumb appliances (even though they are for 90% of people).

..And authoritarian governments can't take complete custody of your movements. Can't shutdown your car either. Seems to be a win-win for both sides (private and public industry).

https://qz.com/1522309/how-chinas-electric-car-surveillance-...

https://apnews.com/article/4a749a4211904784826b45e812cff4ca

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