Hacker News Reader

Comment by gumballindie | Hacker News Reader

Excellent news - we need to label ai generated news, movies, code, and so on. We also need a way to prevent data grabbing - perhaps DRM for text and images.

View on HN

I think you may mean a way to prove provenance, not DRM

There is good prior art happening in the software supply chain, the problem for media content is that you want something like a hardware signature created before software enters the fray

DRM has failed consistently in the past. Why would it work this time?

I dont know - but a way to protect content should be implemented. Otherwise what’s the plan? Let corporations harvest ip and open source code then resell it, while we cant do the same with theirs? Needs to be a level playing field.

Have you read the Biden EO on AI?

The open source AI community has a lot more to worry about than just trying to maintain a level playing field with corporations.

Corporate ai is going to be useless if not trained against quality content. That means blogs. If you can ban microsoft’s openai from taking your content for free and you allow only open source projects with attribution to do so then the advantage is yours. DRM wouldnt be effective against non corporate, but against corporate you’d have proof that they took something which you explicitly didnt allow - cant claim “dont put it on the internets if you dont want it stolen”.

Also open source licensing should change to prevent them from taking advantage.

Plenty of non ai open source code that’s been taken for free by billionaire corporations that give nothing back, yet more, they order workers around.

Ai can be a tool to replace exactly those that wish to replace everyone else.

What do you mean by "protect content"?

Abolish copyright and then you get to do the same with theirs, level playing field ;)

Sounds like the "something must be done, this is something, ..." fallacy. What if it's not actually possible to "protect content" the way you want and every attempt to do so just makes it harder for the little guy while doing nothing to stop those corporations you're worried about?

But then the little guy will have to live with lower quality content because if i am not incentivised to create it then i wont. So then you’re left with the spam and ai generated nonsense.

Repealing intellectual "property" laws would level the playing field.

> DRM for text and images

Please, no. We need less IP, not more.

> DRM for text and images

Ew, ew, ew, ew, ew. No! I hope that was sarcasm. DRM for everything else so far is already a mistake. Do not put that evil on me, RickyBobby.

Reply on news.ycombinator.com