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Try renting a Tesla next time; the network for charging is great, and I think I've only ever had one failure in years, and just moved stalls.

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It's a few years away, but more and more manufacturers are moving to the Tesla standard.

Until you get reamed for 2$ a kw/hr at the hotel level 2 charger.

Thanks but no thanks. Nothing against Teslas, but the issue is that reality is far from the vision proposed by proponents of EVs including governments and entrepreneurs. EVs are not reliable for long journeys.

Besides, I don't like vendor lock-in in my software, I don't like vendor lock-in for my cars.

> Nothing against Teslas, but the issue is that reality is far from the vision proposed by proponents of EVs including governments and entrepreneurs. EVs are not reliable for long journeys.

This really is not the case in my experience. I drive a different EV for personal use, but always Turo a Tesla when flying into a location and doing any significant travel. In every location I’ve been, absolutely zero issues even when traveling 500+ miles between cities. I can see why non-technical people wouldn’t want to do this, but it takes a negligible amount of time to plan a proper route.

> Besides, I don't like vendor lock-in in my software, I don't like vendor lock-in for my cars.

I don’t even know what this means - Tesla vehicles can charge at any CCS station or level 2 charger (home plug, not DC). Other brands will be rolling out Tesla charger support in early 2024. There is no vendor lock-in.

> Nothing against Teslas, but the issue is that reality is far from the vision proposed by proponents of EVs including governments and entrepreneurs. EVs are not reliable for long journeys.

The person you replied to gave you a counter example which you ignore for ... reasons? All of the five issues you cite are basically non-existent for superchargers. As another anecdote, I have made multiple 1000+mile trips using the Supercharger network with zero problems. The experience mirrors that of pretty much every other Tesla owner that I know.

Also, what vendor lock in? I can charge my car at any J1772 or CCS charger (if I wanted to), or at home from a 110V or 220V outlet. Tesla's charging system uses the CCS signalling standard, which is part of the reason other manufacturers are now going to use it as well.

The reasons are obvious - it's not always possible to rent a Tesla, and in fact, it's usually not. Teslas are expensive compared to other electrics. Rental companies, and the world, are diversifying from Teslas, as we should.

This cultish devotion to Tesla is baffling but not surprising.

I don't own or plan to own a Tesla, but the devotion shouldn't be surprising when they seem to have put the most effort and thought into making an EV that's actually functional. They definitely have issues, but most of their competition even now is either a fair bit worse, or even more expensive, or both.

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