Hacker News Reader

Comment by swalsh | Hacker News Reader

Greg Brockman has also left: https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1725667410387378559

What's with the lowercase? I think it's cute if someone is being deliberately low-effort, or trying to present that way, but IMO it's cringe to use it for consequential official statements like this.

This is what aging millenials do to make it seem like they don't really care too much about what's going on and that they're 20 years younger.

how dare you, sir

At least we are not putting 'X' to everything like older generation.

Technically the boomer marketing people did that trying to cater to generation X.

You missed out on the e in front of everything, then I. Those were the days.

It's "millennials" not "millenials". What age group does that put you in?

Definitely not them, I guess! Though I can't say that my eyes are going bad.

I'm often stunned by how casually and poorly executives write. The more rich and powerful they are, the worse it seems to be. I guess things like proper capitalization, punctuation, full sentences, etc. aren't worth their time, and people will hang on every word that they write anyway.

When the networked masses can't see you using a t-shirt, jeans, and a casual attitude, to signal skills valuable beyond convention, you have to adapt and transgress more blatant conventions.

It's not just "tech bros," though. It's just as often executives in the stodgy climates of government, the military, banking and finance, etc.

fan of e e cummings

> but IMO it's cringe to use it for consequential official statements like this

This is funny to me, as Twitter is the platform for "deliberately low-effort" posts, but you see it as a platform for official statements. How times change...

Are these not official statements from gdb and sama? Where do they post the serious stuff?

a symptom of spending too much time on IRC IMHO

Perhaps it is to make it look not like default style of ChatGPT output?

its the future

It 's aggressive passive

Feels like the kind of situation where the two are just going to end up forming a new company that eventually surpasses OpenAI.

What would they bring to the table? It doesn't seem like Greg Brockman brings more than Ilya, and what would sam do?

A big investment from another trillion dollar tech company.

Join them up with Amodei again and.. going wild on speculation and fiction.. they fall back to Elon and Grok and it turns out it was his play all along?

That's would be hilarious

They'd bring to the table having been CEO and CTO of OpenAI. That's a lot of relevant knowledge and experience (the latter being the more important in this case).

> the latter being the more important in this case

Why is that?

Eventually being maybe 5+ years to build out the cloud tech to do so. The reason GPT-4 succeeded is massive RDMA+GPU compute clusters for training the model.

Isn't that tech only one deal with MSFT away?

Microsoft already signed that deal with OpenAI, they can't break contract even if they did want to take an absolutely massive bet that the venture capital CEO and President can rebuild the technical infrastructure and acumen housed at OpenAI. OpenAI can replace Sam Altman and some of his newer hires, they probably can't replace Ilya Sutskever.

Microsoft is free to sign contracts with multiple entities at a time. I guess we'll see.

That's true. It would be a pretty huge bet to invest billions more dollars in an uncertain startup when they already have an AI provider that is guaranteed to be significantly technologically ahead of whatever Sam can pull together for at least several years in the future.

Microsoft could unilaterally term the OpenAI agreement and let OpenAI fight them in court due to this substantial and material event. If OpenAI doesn’t have the cash on hand to survive the legal fight, the non profit dies eventually when they exhaust their resources.

OpenAI only had resources because of Microsoft, and they bit the hand that feeds them.

It is already happening: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38316378

Started OpenAI in his apartment :') (with a cash infusion of $100 million).

Reply on news.ycombinator.com